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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Cc: gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	david@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	willy@infradead.org, peterx@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	hocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stepanov.anatoly@huawei.com,
	alexander.kozhevnikov@huawei-partners.com, guohanjun@huawei.com,
	weiyongjun1@huawei.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	judy.chenhui@huawei.com, yusongping@huawei.com,
	artem.kuzin@huawei.com, kang.sun@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Cgroup-based THP control
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:04:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyJLFv8TgoTyo5SH@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZyJGhKu1FL1ZfCcs@chrisdown.name>

On Wed 30-10-24 14:45:24, Chris Down wrote:
> gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com writes:
> > New memcg files are exposed: memory.thp_enabled and memory.thp_defrag, which
> > have completely the same format as global THP enabled/defrag.
> 
> cgroup controls exist because there are things we want to do for an entire
> class of processes (group OOM, resource control, etc). Enabling or disabling
> some specific setting is generally not one of them, hence why we got rid of
> things like per-cgroup vm.swappiness. We know that these controls do not
> compose well and have caused a lot of pain in the past. So my immediate
> reaction is a nack on the general concept, unless there's some absolutely
> compelling case here.
> 
> I talked a little at Kernel Recipes last year about moving away from sysctl
> and other global interfaces and making things more granular. Don't get me
> wrong, I think that is a good thing (although, of course, a very large
> undertaking) -- but it is a mistake to overload the amount of controls we
> expose as part of the cgroup interface.

Completely agreed!

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30  8:33 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Cgroup-based THP control gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: Add thp_flags control for cgroup gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: Support for huge pages in cgroups gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:33 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: Add thp_defrag control for cgroup gutierrez.asier
2024-10-30  8:38 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Cgroup-based THP control Michal Hocko
2024-10-30 12:51   ` Gutierrez Asier
2024-10-30 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-30 14:58       ` Gutierrez Asier
2024-10-30 15:15         ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-31  6:06           ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-10-31  8:33             ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-31 14:37               ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01  7:35                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 11:54                   ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:15                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 13:24                       ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:28                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 13:39                           ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 13:50                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-01 14:03                               ` Stepanov Anatoly
2024-11-01 16:01                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-30 13:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-30 13:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30 14:45 ` Chris Down
2024-10-30 15:04   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-10-30 15:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-11-01 12:44   ` Stepanov Anatoly

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