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[2001:470:26:54b:226:9eff:fe70:80c2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-53c7bc9598dsm150799e87.22.2024.10.31.03.05.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.paul.comp (home.paul.comp [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by home.paul.comp (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-22+deb11u3) with ESMTP id 49VA5DFw005564; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:05:15 +0300 Received: (from paul@localhost) by home.paul.comp (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49VA5DM1005563; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:05:13 +0300 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:05:12 +0300 From: Paul Fertser To: Patrick Williams Subject: Re: Update on some maintainers / contributors. Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Development list for OpenBMC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: OpenBMC List Errors-To: openbmc-bounces+openbmc=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "openbmc" Hello Patrick, On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:31:33AM -0400, Patrick Williams wrote: > it seems like we should be more forward about what is going on. Great to hear you think that, and thanks a lot for approaching this in a more humane way. > - We are not accepting new CCLAs from entities on the sanctions list > or accepting ICLAs from individuals associated with these > entities. Please consider trying to do better than the "high ranking members of the kernel community" mentioned earlier and adding specific, explicit rules regarding this issue to the project documentation. In particular, it would be really important to clarify 1. Which sanctions list it is exactly; for Linux they say they are going to follow just the SDN and not the whole OFAC so even despite e.g. Huawei is sanctioned they are still allowed to not only contribute code but also maintain parts of the project. 2. How association of an individual with an entity is established. The kernel people were mentioning some documents that a developer might provide to prove they're not associated but it's hard to imagine what kind of document that might even be. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercerpav@gmail.com