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From: Beata Michalska <beata.michalska@arm.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	ionela.voinescu@arm.com, sudeep.holla@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, rafael@kernel.org, sumitg@nvidia.com,
	yang@os.amperecomputing.com, vanshikonda@os.amperecomputing.com,
	lihuisong@huawei.com, zhanjie9@hisilicon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] cpufreq: Introduce an optional cpuinfo_avg_freq sysfs entry
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 09:00:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zyh_ACbOkSsjcPX3@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029070429.m7q5dkumitoyqxq2@vireshk-i7>

On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:34:29PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> Apologies for the delay from my side. September was mostly holidays
> for me and then I was stuck with other stuff plus email backlog and
> this series was always a painful point to return to :(
Thanks for getting back to me on this one!
> 
> On 13-09-24, 14:29, Beata Michalska wrote:
> > Currently the CPUFreq core exposes two sysfs attributes that can be used
> > to query current frequency of a given CPU(s): namely cpuinfo_cur_freq
> > and scaling_cur_freq. Both provide slightly different view on the
> > subject and they do come with their own drawbacks.
> > 
> > cpuinfo_cur_freq provides higher precision though at a cost of being
> > rather expensive. Moreover, the information retrieved via this attribute
> > is somewhat short lived as frequency can change at any point of time
> > making it difficult to reason from.
> > 
> > scaling_cur_freq, on the other hand, tends to be less accurate but then
> > the actual level of precision (and source of information) varies between
> > architectures making it a bit ambiguous.
> > 
> > The new attribute, cpuinfo_avg_freq, is intended to provide more stable,
> > distinct interface, exposing an average frequency of a given CPU(s), as
> > reported by the hardware, over a time frame spanning no more than a few
> > milliseconds. As it requires appropriate hardware support, this
> > interface is optional.
> 
> From what I recall, the plan is to:
> - keep cpuinfo_cur_freq as it is, not expose for x86 and call ->get()
>   for ARM.
> 
> - introduce cpuinfo_avg_freq() and make it return frequency from hw
>   counters for both ARM and Intel and others who provide the API.
> 
> - update scaling_cur_freq() to only return the requested frequency or
>   error in case of X86 and update documentation to reflect the same.
>   Right now or after some time ? How much time ?
> 
>   Rafael ?
>
> > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > index 04fc786dd2c0..3493e5a9500d 100644
> > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > @@ -752,6 +752,16 @@ __weak unsigned int arch_freq_get_on_cpu(int cpu)
> >  	return 0;
> >  }
> >  
> > +__weak int arch_freq_avg_get_on_cpu(int cpu)
> > +{
> > +	return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static inline bool cpufreq_avg_freq_supported(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
> > +{
> > +	return arch_freq_avg_get_on_cpu(policy->cpu) >= 0;
> > +}
> 
> And why aren't we simply reusing arch_freq_get_on_cpu() here ?
We need a way to discover whether the new sysfs attrib is to be enabled or not.
I guess I could change the signature for arch_freq_get_on_cpu to return an error
if that functionality is not supported for given policy ?

---
Best Regards
Beata
> 
> -- 
> viresh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-13 13:29 [PATCH v7 0/4] Add support for AArch64 AMUv1-based average freq Beata Michalska
2024-09-13 13:29 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] cpufreq: Introduce an optional cpuinfo_avg_freq sysfs entry Beata Michalska
2024-09-25  8:58   ` Jie Zhan
2024-09-26 10:42     ` Beata Michalska
2024-10-29  7:04   ` Viresh Kumar
2024-10-29 11:31     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-04  8:01       ` Beata Michalska
2024-11-04 13:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-11-04  8:00     ` Beata Michalska [this message]
2024-11-08  6:28       ` Viresh Kumar
2024-09-13 13:29 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] arm64: amu: Delay allocating cpumask for AMU FIE support Beata Michalska
2024-09-13 13:29 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] arm64: Provide an AMU-based version of arch_freq_avg_get_on_cpu Beata Michalska
2024-09-17 12:11   ` Sumit Gupta
2024-09-26 10:34     ` Beata Michalska
2024-09-26 23:21       ` Vanshidhar Konda
2024-10-03 21:39         ` Beata Michalska
2024-10-03 21:54           ` Vanshidhar Konda
2024-10-10 11:08             ` Beata Michalska
2024-10-11 16:29               ` Vanshidhar Konda
2024-10-14 17:46                 ` Sumit Gupta
2024-10-16 20:45                   ` Beata Michalska
2024-10-29  6:53               ` Viresh Kumar
2024-11-04  7:58                 ` Beata Michalska
2024-09-13 13:29 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] arm64: Update AMU-based freq scale factor on entering idle Beata Michalska
2024-10-16 10:59 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add support for AArch64 AMUv1-based average freq Catalin Marinas
2024-10-16 20:51   ` Beata Michalska
2024-10-27 18:16     ` Beata Michalska

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