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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	sched-ext@meta.com, Changwoo Min <multics69@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.13 1/2] sched_ext: Avoid live-locking bypass mode switching
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:33:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zyq5ZELbPjqIQ-Pc@gpd3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zyq3vmLP4R2WjnmB@slm.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 02:26:38PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 12:57:42AM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> ...
> > Do you think there's any benefit using the idle injection framework here
> > instead of this cpu_relax() loop? At the end we're trying to throttle
> > the scx scheduler from hammering a DSQ until the scheduler is kicked
> > out, so we may just inject real idle cycles?
> 
> That involves switching to the dedicated task and so on, right? When this is
> needed, we can't even trust whether the system is going to make forward
> progress within the scheduler. I don't think it'd be a good idea to call out
> to something more complicated. Also, from forward-progress-guaranteeing
> point of view, cpu_relax() is as good as anything else and this shouldn't be
> active long enough for power consumption to be a factor.

Ok, I see, we want to keep it simple, because the CPUs might be
congested (like even from a hardware perspective), so in that case
cpu_relax() makes more sense probably.

Thanks,
-Andrea

      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-06  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-05 21:48 [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.13 1/2] sched_ext: Avoid live-locking bypass mode switching Tejun Heo
2024-11-05 21:49 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.13 2/2] sched_ext: Enable the ops breather and eject BPF scheduler on softlockup Tejun Heo
2024-11-06 21:32   ` Doug Anderson
2024-11-06 22:08     ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-06 23:02       ` Doug Anderson
2024-11-06 23:07         ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-06 23:20           ` Doug Anderson
2024-11-07 19:31             ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-08 20:38   ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-05 22:03 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.13 1/2] sched_ext: Avoid live-locking bypass mode switching David Vernet
2024-11-05 23:02   ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-05 23:57 ` Andrea Righi
2024-11-06  0:26   ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-06  0:33     ` Andrea Righi [this message]

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