From: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] ARM64 Allwinner Binary Size
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:41:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1bf58a9-71bd-0d97-4dc3-99cb1d6e52a1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD6G_RRXZL5ZbhNi2PLfkicgZxo6HRcw-hQBivFCAgaqFPCzAw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On 19/12/17 14:38, Jagan Teki wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com> wrote:
>> Hi Maxime,
>>
>> On 19/12/17 14:20, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 01:38:59PM +0000, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>> Hi Maxime,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for having a look!
>>>>
>>>> On 19/12/17 13:12, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 10:28:20AM +0000, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>>>> So even though the actual u-boot.bin for 64-bit boards is still somewhat
>>>>>> below the limit (~480KB), adding the ATF image (~32KB) pushes it over
>>>>>> the edge. So since v2017.11 u-boot.itb is already too big for the
>>>>>> traditional MMC env location.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I've had a quick look about what could go possibly go away in our
>>>>> current armv8 config (using the pine64+ defconfig). Let me know if
>>>>> some are actually vitals:
>>>>>
>>>>> - FIT_ENABLE_SHA256_SUPPORT
>>>>> - CONSOLE_MUX
>>>>> - CMD_CRC32
>>>>> - CMD_LZMADEC
>>>>> - CMD_UNZIP
>>>>> - CMD_LOADB
>>>>> - CMD_LOADS
>>>>> - CMD_MISC (actually implementing the command sleep)
>>>>> - ISO_PARTITION (yes. For CDROMs.)
>>>>
>>>> As Alex mentioned, this is needed for some installer images, which come
>>>> as ISOs. So if possible, we should keep this in.
>>>
>>> So, with FIT_ENABLE_SHA256_SUPPORT, LZMADEC, ISO_PARTITION and the
>>> overlay support, we're at 500kB.
>>>
>>> Again, tight, but under the limit.
>>
>> Phew! ;-)
>>
>>>
>>>>> - VIDEO_BPP8, VIDEO_BPP16
>>>>> - VIDEO_ANSI
>>>>> - SHA256
>>>>> - LZMA
>>>>
>>>> From just looking at the names I am fine with the rest gone. But let me
>>>> test tonight if there are any side effects.
>>>>
>>>> Some of them seem useful, but I would leave enabling them to the actual
>>>> users. If someone needs it, they can enable them and loose the raw MMC
>>>> environment. I think this is a fair trade-off.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's my view too.
>>>
>>>>> Removing those options make the u-boot.itb binary size going from
>>>>> 516kB to 478kB, making it functional again *and* allowing us to enable
>>>>> the DT overlays that seem way more important than any feature
>>>>> mentionned above (and bumps the size to 483kB).
>>>>
>>>> How important is the raw MMC environment for the ARM64 boards, actually?
>>>> Most of the rationale for the 32-bit side seemed to apply to legacy use
>>>> cases only. Do we have reports/complaints from 64-bit users?
>>>
>>> Pretty much as important as it is on arm I guess. We just have less
>>> history, but the same use cases.
>>>
>>> I'd really like to give at least one release for transition, which
>>> would mean having a schedule like this:
>>>
>>> - in 2018.01, merge those config removals so that we have least have
>>> something that works quite fast
>>>
>>> - in 2018.03, merge the multiple environment patches. We seem to
>>> have reached a consensus here, so I'm not really concerned that we
>>> will have it merged.
>>>
>>> - in 2018.05, if needed, remove the raw MMC options and complete the
>>> transition to FAT.
>>
>> That sounds very reasonable to me, thanks for writing this down!
>>
>> This gives us an only intermediate shortage of features for defconfig.
>>
>> We should encourage everyone who builds (and ships) firmware right now
>> to drop MMC env support already, if they tinker with the .config anyway.
>> That is, if there is no legacy usage to be concerned about.
>
> All these trimming(if it fits) seems to be nice for now, but what if
> once driver-model MMC, reset, pinctrl, clk, regulator are IN?
But that is what all of this is about? At the moment we can't go beyond
504K because the raw MMC U-Boot environment lives there on the SD card.
But with Maxime's plan for 2018.05, this will be gone and we should have
about 984KB (1MB - 40K).
Cheers,
Andre.
> of-course we can't do anything with SPL size because of SRAM
> constraints, but U-Boot proper size? why can't we increase the u-boot
> partition size?
>
> thanks!
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-19 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-28 10:24 [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] env: Multiple env support and env transition for sunxi Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/14] cmd: nvedit: Get rid of the env lookup Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:08 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/14] env: Rename env_driver_lookup_default and env_get_default_location Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:08 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/14] env: Pass additional parameters to the env lookup function Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-08 8:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-05 9:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/14] env: Make the env save message a bit more explicit Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/14] env: Make it explicit where we're loading our environment from Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/14] env: fat: Make the debug messages play a little nicer Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/14] env: mmc: " Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/14] env: common: " Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/14] env: Support multiple environments Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/14] env: Initialise all the environments Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 12:24 ` Quentin Schulz
2017-11-28 12:29 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:11 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/14] env: Allow to build multiple environments in Kconfig Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:11 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/14] env: Mark env_get_location as weak Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:14 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-05 9:29 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-01-08 4:52 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-09 13:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-01-09 16:05 ` Tom Rini
2018-01-11 15:35 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/14] sunxi: Transition from the MMC to a FAT-based environment Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:28 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-08 8:42 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:12 ` [U-Boot] ARM64 Allwinner Binary Size Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:15 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 13:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:30 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:16 ` Emmanuel Vadot
2017-12-19 14:20 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:22 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 14:24 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 13:28 ` Alexander Graf
2017-12-19 13:31 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:38 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 13:51 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 14:17 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-20 9:31 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 14:20 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:27 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 14:38 ` Jagan Teki
2017-12-19 14:41 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-12-19 14:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:41 ` Andre Przywara [this message]
2017-12-19 15:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 15:44 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 15:50 ` Jagan Teki
2017-12-20 2:02 ` André Przywara
2017-12-19 13:41 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 15:24 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 22:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-20 1:55 ` André Przywara
2017-12-20 7:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-20 7:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-20 9:20 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/14] env: sunxi: Enable FAT-based environment support by default Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:30 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-07 20:09 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] env: Multiple env support and env transition for sunxi Tom Rini
2017-12-08 9:05 ` Maxime Ripard
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2017-12-20 17:52 ` [U-Boot] ARM64 Allwinner Binary Size Duncan Hare
2017-12-20 18:08 ` Jagan Teki
2017-12-20 20:30 ` Duncan Hare
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