From: Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Ram <linuxram@us.ibm.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
7eggert@gmx.de, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, smfrench@austin.rr.com,
hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:18:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4e6962a05051119181e53634e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050512010215.GB8457@mail.shareable.org>
On 5/11/05, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
>
> Please read carefully: I've described what _current_ kernels do.
>
I guess I misread when you wrote:
>>
>>You can't do a lot with the new namespace, because of the security
>>restrictions on mount() on a foreign namespace. That's what I meant
>>about the "small fixes" - get rid of the current->namespace checks and
>>it'll be usable.
>>
>>I don't see the purpose of current->namespace and the associated mount
>>restrictions at all. I asked Al Viro what it's for, but haven't seen
>>a reply :( IMHO current->namespace should simply be removed, because the
>>"current namespace" is represented just fine by
>>current->fs->rootmnt->mnt_namespace.
>>
That sounds an awful lot like you want to make changes to the current
support in the kernel.
> It's a poorly understood area of the kernel, and I'm attempting to
> clarify it. This talk of new system calls for entering a namespace
> makes no sense when you can _already_ do some things that people
> haven't realised the kernel does.
>
IMHO part of the reason its so poorly understood is that people aren't
using it. That's why I suggest we use some of the proposed patches
which open up name space operations to common users. There are some
security checks (like the one brought up justifying the CAP_SYS_ADMIN
permissions on CLONE_NS) that need to be added, before we start
removing others -- and I'm quite concerned that Viro hasn't weighed in
on any of these new patches, I wonder if its because this thread seems
to have gone off the deep end.
-eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-12 2:19 UTC|newest]
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2005-05-11 16:41 ` [RCF] [PATCH] unprivileged mount/umount Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-11 17:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 18:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 19:05 ` serue
2005-05-11 19:46 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 20:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 3:05 ` serue
2005-05-11 19:35 ` Ram
2005-05-11 20:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 22:42 ` Ram
2005-05-11 22:58 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12 1:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 2:18 ` Eric Van Hensbergen [this message]
2005-05-12 6:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 13:23 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-12 13:47 ` serue
2005-05-12 15:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 12:51 ` serue
2005-05-12 18:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 19:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13 8:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 1:10 ` Ram
2005-05-13 6:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 7:25 ` Ram
2005-05-13 8:59 ` Ram
2005-05-13 9:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 16:53 ` Ram
2005-05-13 17:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 18:44 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 20:56 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-12 0:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-13 6:41 ` Ram
2005-05-11 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 21:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 19:32 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-11 21:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11 21:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 21:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-12 3:08 ` serue
2005-05-03 14:31 Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-03 17:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 13:08 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 14:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-04 14:51 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-04 15:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-12 21:08 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-13 5:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 7:19 ` Jan Hudec
2005-05-13 8:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 23:09 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14 6:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 18:35 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-14 11:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-04 13:47 ` Martin Waitz
2005-05-04 14:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-11 8:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 9:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
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