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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes
Date: 14 Mar 2002 11:46:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6quma$7pd$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203141802330.1477-100000@biker.pdb.fsc.net> <E16lZg3-0001Ug-00@the-village.bc.nu> <a6qtb8$6fg$1@penguin.transmeta.com>

Followup to:  <a6qtb8$6fg$1@penguin.transmeta.com>
By author:    torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> I suspect the _real_ solution is to stop using "inb_p/outb_p" and make
> the delay explicit, although it may be that some drivers depend on the
> fact that not only is the "outb $0x80" a delay, it also tends to act as
> a posting barrier.
> 

... as well as a push-out to the ISA bus.  I suspect dumping the outb
way of doing it and instead wait in the CPU might cause the delay to
happen in the wrong part of the system (consider split-transaction
queued busses like HyperTransport, where a delay in the CPU doesn't
necessarily mean a delay in the southbridge.)

Port 0x80 has served us well, at least as a default.  If you really
care about the POST display you can recompile using a different port.

	-hpa
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-14 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-14 17:11 IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes Martin Wilck
2002-03-14 17:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 18:10 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 19:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2002-03-14 20:43     ` John Heil
2002-03-14 21:03       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:19         ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-14 21:26           ` John Heil
2002-03-14 21:41           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 21:44           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 21:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:11               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 22:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:25                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-14 22:58                     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 22:56                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 21:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 21:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-14 21:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-14 22:06           ` John Heil
2002-03-14 22:55             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-14 22:39               ` John Heil
2002-03-14 23:29                 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-15  0:12               ` David Golden
2002-03-15  0:11                 ` John Heil
2002-03-19 14:25                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-15 11:30         ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-14 18:18 Thunder from the hill
2002-03-15 11:46 ` Martin Wilck
     [not found] <3C90E983.5AC769B8@ngforever.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203151243430.1477-100000@biker.pdb.fsc.net.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-03-15 11:51   ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-15 12:47     ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-15 12:52       ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-15 15:07 Thunder from the hill
2002-03-15 17:39 Gerald Champagne

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