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Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 net-next 3/3] net: ena: Add PHC documentation
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 08:45:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a86eb32a374d4853a409c02777e71501@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzlOPEyFxOjvPJd2@hoboy.vegasvil.org>

> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 05:53:26PM -0800, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 11:59:30AM +0200, David Arinzon wrote:
> >
> > > +**phc_skp**         Number of skipped get time attempts (during block
> period).
> > > +**phc_err**         Number of failed get time attempts (entering into
> block state).
> >
> > Just curious...  I understand that the HW can't support a very high
> > rate of gettime calls and that the driver will throttle them.
> >
> > But why did you feel the need to document the throttling behavior in
> > such a overt way?  Are there user space programs out there calling
> > gettime excessively?
> 
> Answering my own question (maybe)
> 
> I see that your PHC only supports gettime(), and so I guess you must have
> some atypical system setup in mind.
> 
> I didn't see any comments in the cover letter or in the patch about why the
> PHC isn't adjustable or how offering gettime() only is useful?
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard

Hi Richard
	
Thank you for the queries.

Our device limits the number of requests per client (VM) through throttling.
To avoid reaching our device throttling limit and ensure a fail-fast mechanism,
the driver preemptively applies throttling.
In addition, AWS cannot be adjusted or controlled by the OS/User to correct any time deviations,
instead, AWS manages the synchronization and accuracy of the clock internally and provides a
pre-disciplined clock that already adheres to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) standards.
An upcoming patch, which is a continuation of https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/4c2e99b4-b19e-41f5-a048-3bcc8c33a51c@lunn.ch/T/#m58cf9b05b34046b3952ae8bf4cc7d7f2c8b011d7,
will introduce the error bound in ENA PHC, providing internal AWS accuracy error measurements (in nanoseconds).

Thanks,
David



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-19  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-14  9:59 [PATCH v4 net-next 0/3] PHC support in ENA driver David Arinzon
2024-11-14  9:59 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/3] net: ena: Add PHC support in the " David Arinzon
2024-11-14  9:59 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/3] net: ena: PHC silent reset David Arinzon
2024-11-14  9:59 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 3/3] net: ena: Add PHC documentation David Arinzon
2024-11-17  1:53   ` Richard Cochran
2024-11-17  2:00     ` Richard Cochran
2024-11-19  8:45       ` Arinzon, David [this message]
2024-11-21  4:58         ` Richard Cochran
2024-11-21 18:59           ` Arinzon, David

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