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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ziqianlu@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance()
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 01:18:42 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a98c40701cc874318e7fe475d90795c6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261107120208.153536827@infradead.org>

Hello,

On Sat, Nov 07, 2026 at 12:59:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>  static struct task_struct *pick_task_rt(struct rq *rq, struct rq_flags *rf)
>  {
> -	struct task_struct *p;
> +	rq_modified_begin(rq, &rt_sched_class);
> +	balance_rt(rq, rf);
> +	if (rq_modified_above(rq, &rt_sched_class))
> +		return RETRY_TASK;

This exposes an underlying problem on the DL side. rq->next_class is
raised only by wakeup_preempt(), but dl_server_start(), dl_task_timer()
and dl_server_timer() enqueue a DL entity and open-code resched_curr()
without going through it. prev_balance() ran before any class was
picked, so it didn't matter. Now, pick_task_dl() has already returned
NULL when balance_rt() drops the lock, and rq_modified_above() is the
only thing which can notice a DL entity queued in the meantime:

  CPU0 RT task blocks, pick_task_dl() returns NULL
       pick_task_rt(), balance_rt() drops the rq lock
  CPU1 wakes a fair task onto CPU0, dl_server_start()
  CPU0 relocks, rq_modified_above() is false
       picks an RT task with the fair server queued

resched_curr() doesn't help as __schedule() clears it on prev after the
pick. I can trigger this with NO_RT_PUSH_IPI and a delay added in the
lock drop. With RT_PUSH_IPI, pull_rt_task() doesn't drop the lock.

Maybe the DL sites should raise rq->next_class where they enqueue and
resched, so that they behave the same as regular wakeups?

Thanks.

--
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-11 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-07 11:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/core: Fix pick_next_task() self recursion Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  0:30   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/core: Introduce rq_drop_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08  9:25   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 10:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched/core: Decompose update_rq_clock() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched/core: Make __update_rq_clock() skip updates on UPDATED Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11  1:11   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 10:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 12:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 17:08         ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched/core: Abstract/fix rq_clock_start_loop_update() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-08 22:26   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11  9:10     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-11  9:51       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 16:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched/core: New rq_{pin,drop,repin,unpin}_lock() semantics Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 10:41   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] sched/core: Simplify/fix time updates Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched/core: Allow newidle for core-sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched/rt: Add early exit on balance path Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched/fair: Reflow pick_task_fair() / newidle Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:02   ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 12:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched/fair: Push sched_balance_newidle() unlock down Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-07 11:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Remove sched_class::balance() Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 11:18   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2026-11-11 13:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 13:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 14:57         ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-11 15:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 16:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-11 18:53               ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-11-12  6:46   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-12  9:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-12 10:17       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-11-12 10:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-12 13:17           ` Andrea Righi
2026-11-11 11:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: core-sched fixes and balancing Tejun Heo
2026-11-11 13:57   ` Peter Zijlstra

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