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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Differentiate default features for host and guest FPUs
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:28:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aA-QqaKo825uIuW7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aA71VD0NgLZMmNGi@intel.com>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025, Chao Gao wrote:
> >I assume the kernel has bigger problems if CET_S is somehow tied to a
> >userspace task.
> 
> To be clear, CET_S here refers to the CET supervisor state, which includes SSP
> pointers for privilege levels 0 through 2. The IA32_S_CET MSR is not part of
> that state.
> 
> >
> >For KVM, it's just the one MSR, and KVM needs to support save/restore of that MSR
> >no matter what, 

Oh, it's not just one MSR.  I was indeed thinking this was just IA32_S_CET.  But
lucky for me, the statement holds for SSP0-SS2.

> so supporting it via XSAVE would be more work, a bit sketchy, and
> >create yet another way for userspace to do weird things when saving/restoring vCPU
> >state.
> 
> Agreed. One more issue of including CET_S into KVM_GET/SET_XSAVE{2} is:
> 
> XSAVE UABI buffers adhere to the standard format defined by the SDM, which
> never includes supervisor states. Attempting to incorporate supervisor states
> into UABI buffers would lead to many issues, such as deviating from the
> standard format and the need to define offsets for each supervisor state.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-28 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10  7:24 [PATCH v5 0/7] Introduce CET supervisor state support Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Always preserve non-user xfeatures/flags in __state_perm Chao Gao
2025-04-18 20:50   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] x86/fpu: Drop @perm from guest pseudo FPU container Chao Gao
2025-04-18 20:51   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-18 20:54     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-19  1:01     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Differentiate default features for host and guest FPUs Chao Gao
2025-04-24 22:52   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-25  8:24     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-25 16:09       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-25 23:48         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-28  3:26           ` Chao Gao
2025-04-28  7:44             ` Xin Li
2025-04-28 14:28             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-04-28  6:31           ` Xin Li
2025-04-28 15:42           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-29  1:11             ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-29  2:50               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-29  3:22                 ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-29  3:36                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-30  3:27                     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-30 15:01                     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-30 15:33                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-30 16:20                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-30 18:26                           ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-28  5:51         ` Xin Li
2025-04-28  6:12           ` Xin Li
2025-05-01 14:24   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-05-06  3:29     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] x86/fpu: Initialize guest FPU permissions from guest defaults Chao Gao
2025-04-30 15:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] x86/fpu: Initialize guest fpstate and FPU pseudo container " Chao Gao
2025-04-30 18:29   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-01 14:24     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-05-06  3:33       ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce "guest-only" supervisor xfeature set Chao Gao
2025-04-24 22:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor xfeature support as a guest-only feature Chao Gao
2025-04-24 23:28 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Introduce CET supervisor state support Edgecombe, Rick P

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