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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, kwilczynski@kernel.org, zhiw@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, bskeggs@nvidia.com,
	acurrid@nvidia.com, joelagnelf@nvidia.com, ttabi@nvidia.com,
	acourbot@nvidia.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
	gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	benno.lossin@proton.me, a.hindborg@kernel.org,
	aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Devres optimization with bound devices
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 19:14:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aA0UjvxV7_VfbR1a@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aA0TU1Abvm3YxMgS@Mac.home>

On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 10:09:39AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 03:30:38PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > This patch series implements a direct accessor for the data stored within
> > a Devres container for cases where we can proof that we own a reference
> > to a Device<Bound> (i.e. a bound device) of the same device that was used
> > to create the corresponding Devres container.
> > 
> > Usually, when accessing the data stored within a Devres container, it is
> > not clear whether the data has been revoked already due to the device
> > being unbound and, hence, we have to try whether the access is possible
> > and subsequently keep holding the RCU read lock for the duration of the
> > access.
> > 
> > However, when we can proof that we hold a reference to Device<Bound>
> > matching the device the Devres container has been created with, we can
> > guarantee that the device is not unbound for the duration of the
> > lifetime of the Device<Bound> reference and, hence, it is not possible
> > for the data within the Devres container to be revoked.
> > 
> > Therefore, in this case, we can bypass the atomic check and the RCU read
> > lock, which is a great optimization and simplification for drivers.
> > 
> 
> Nice! However, IIUC, if the users use Devres::new() to create a `Devres`
> , they will have a `Devres` they can revoke anytime, which means you can
> still revoke the `Devres` even if the device is bound.

No, a user of Devres can't revoke the inner Revocable itself. A user can only
drop the Devres instance, in which case the user also wouldn't be able to call
access_with() anymore.

> Also if a `Devres` belongs to device A, but someone passes device B's
> bound reference to `access_with()`, the compiler won't check for that,
> and the `Devres` can be being revoked as the same, no? If so the
> function is not safe.

Devres::access_with() compares the Device<Bound> parameter with its inner
ARef<Device>, and just fails if they don't match.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-26 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-26 13:30 [PATCH 0/3] Devres optimization with bound devices Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: revocable: implement Revocable::access() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 16:44   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 16:54     ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:01       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 17:09         ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 17:19         ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:03       ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 20:16         ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 20:24   ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 21:18     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: devres: implement Devres::access_with() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 16:53   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 17:08     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 17:18       ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 20:18         ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-27 13:15   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-27 14:17     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] samples: rust: pci: take advantage of Devres::access_with() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 20:30   ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 21:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27  8:56       ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-27 10:20         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27 17:05           ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 17:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] Devres optimization with bound devices Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:14   ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-04-26 17:17     ` Boqun Feng

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