From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [192.198.163.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F02E1EA7EB for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.9 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1745307203; cv=none; b=SHhAWOAIPWpR+U6JmUq3+3nhHBQIvwBIgieUmelGV1ZpXrVRg2vPfIZu2+BF2Ap/F5vg8zZUOoR+fQtLpJvaR1qm1zosxYM8I1YLeZXC4lp10QeZFvc7d6wHrpcjnCiJO5DcaYou8V00H32Oe2rrMLmNck/vn2EAXligYRYgioQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1745307203; c=relaxed/simple; bh=weSFX5tEpk8W1IgT2CqrHqhWI7Eib/GIF1I8pLS+fSY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=IEcABGGH/Zp6SrIUetwImPd5ZoUufEqlmkSV5CIXnrkXcxDNobEEfx1YYkvOq1+LqaeJlngGuvLKOj+Qw6Y3b20AchIPkoSKA+8a6m8+WWFU/umpvhcMLoSvfV1rcPXydurAaC8HBhndiv0EJ6kndSUCqUQ3SQ1GbVvRJcHytKI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.intel.com; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux.intel.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b=LiU1pBpX; arc=none smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.9 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux.intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b="LiU1pBpX" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1745307202; x=1776843202; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=weSFX5tEpk8W1IgT2CqrHqhWI7Eib/GIF1I8pLS+fSY=; b=LiU1pBpX/2Kya9RTeOIjIPJaK3BFUeRDk/GZJjrTVuDUHtLQsra2TUjm q97DYPH7iumYU3xh01gTAYa+0FhMPTcLhIxdT2M7s7hp0nd9DnSOw6G1s ihf3P44HJYrMz7onieiq+EdDBbePMMJxidI97E3BjHEoIjqbbSAOequ6D bAC//J2rlVVoI6+1ayCnOPKxOYqqZ5BUKADmcISwQCOhl1MTa4qKykJ/9 rdM7PH5hGErEXcdmZyoDfCD3ZJ0eXYeFoX2I1pMKCoCqqLneMWJEuYLlU KGs412IXRzXtpNa/bO3Bgb40yTkVcn+Ds416y1TCubHCqIpDhDuCwOhtD Q==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: oI5R2ZTcSYuC5fBkoAFWXw== X-CSE-MsgGUID: 9pyY78bwQyG030jRG/Yzbg== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6700,10204,11410"; a="57500933" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.15,230,1739865600"; d="scan'208";a="57500933" Received: from fmviesa006.fm.intel.com ([10.60.135.146]) by fmvoesa103.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Apr 2025 00:33:21 -0700 X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: 6V0wC2nLRVmdwjH3Ym5HbQ== X-CSE-MsgGUID: H7vf8i7rTYizXSgLGyIGKQ== X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.15,230,1739865600"; d="scan'208";a="131781927" Received: from turnipsi.fi.intel.com (HELO kekkonen.fi.intel.com) ([10.237.72.44]) by fmviesa006-auth.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Apr 2025 00:33:14 -0700 Received: from kekkonen.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kekkonen.fi.intel.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EA13E11F871; Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:33:11 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:33:11 +0000 Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo From: Sakari Ailus To: Hans Verkuil Cc: Linux Media Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Laurent Pinchart , Sean Young , Ricardo Ribalda , Nicolas Dufresne , Jacopo Mondi , Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derlund?= , Tomi Valkeinen , Alain Volmat , Bryan O'Donoghue , Dave Stevenson , Daniel Almeida , Michael Tretter , Tomasz Figa , "Hu, Jerry W" , Steve Cho , Kieran Bingham , Kevin Hilman , Paul Kocialkowski , Benjamin Mugnier , Hans Verkuil , Arthur Vinchon , Marco Felsch , Jackson Lee , Mirela Rabulea , Hans de Goede , Jai Luthra , Devarsh Thakkar , Maxime Ripard Subject: Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v2) Message-ID: References: <71a1ba46-04c3-4694-95e7-9e2906b1d899@jjverkuil.nl> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <71a1ba46-04c3-4694-95e7-9e2906b1d899@jjverkuil.nl> Hi Hans, On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 02:31:34PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: > Also, as you can see we are light on topics, so don't hesitate to add more. I'd like to propose identifying camera modules as a topic. The camera module isn't a functional component in the system and so has (mostly) been omitted in system firmware as well as UAPI. Being able to identify it, however, is becoming more and more important as the user space becomes less and less system specific, largely thanks to libcamera. This isn't just about passing information to the userspace as identifying the modules themselves is a problem on its own. I intend to post an RFC set regarding this to LMML at least a week before the summit. -- Kind regards, Sakari Ailus