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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nicolas Schier <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Don't create Python bytecode when building the kernel
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:57:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAdL7aEcbulV9lsA@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjspzd4e.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>

On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:35:29AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com> writes:
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 03:51:03PM +0800, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> 
> >> As reported by Andy, the Kernel build system runs kernel-doc script for DRM,
> >> when W=1. Due to Python's normal behavior, its JIT compiler will create
> >> a bytecode and store it under scripts/lib/*/__pycache__. 
> >> 
> >> As one may be using O= and even having the sources on a read-only mount
> >> point, disable its creation during build time.
> >
> > Would it be possible to properly support O= and create pyc / pycache
> > inside the object/output dir?
> 
> I have to confess, I've been wondering if we should be treating the .pyc
> files like we treat .o files or other intermediate products.  Rather
> than trying to avoid their creation entirely, perhaps we should just be
> sure they end up in the right place and are properly cleaned up...?
> 
> To answer Dmitry's question, it seems that setting PYTHONPYCACHEPREFIX
> should do the trick?

It's not so easy. The Python is written in a way that it thinks it will never
runs object files separately from the source. Hence that variable sets only
the folder per script as _home_ for the cache. It's completely unusable. They
took it wrong. It still can be _painfully_ used, but it will make Makefiles
uglier.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-22  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-16  7:51 [PATCH v3 0/2] Don't create Python bytecode when building the kernel Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  7:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] scripts/kernel-doc.py: don't create *.pyc files Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  8:34   ` Jani Nikula
2025-04-16  9:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:23       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-16  9:29       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:36         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-17  6:31           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:38         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:41           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-18 23:51             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:39         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-17  7:58   ` kernel test robot
2025-04-18 18:12   ` kernel test robot
2025-04-16  7:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] .gitignore: ignore Python compiled bytecode Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-16  9:18   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-21  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Don't create Python bytecode when building the kernel Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-21 16:35   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-04-22  7:57     ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-04-23  9:30       ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-04-23 16:31         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-24  2:07           ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-04-24  7:26             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-24  7:44               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-04-24  9:28             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-24  0:31     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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