From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [192.198.163.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6275B1F1818 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2025 09:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.14 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1745315920; cv=none; b=L1uM872iK7khghBQ4KpjMgy6h+k4gpupUollBT3llciFvsnagH2AylqIG75lo2Da6TiIhykvdLFlmrn6Ty+1N7eHlwv6tx9W1j+v/4DqMDCjPk++tXUzvHlou+pnn61N4cI8rz2X/dmoxD7W6X+bQbMgvrPDRUquBJEFXgpokSg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1745315920; c=relaxed/simple; bh=/btNzVZUGF5ZbZBH1sHWNc6Gckz9bD0aHejVWH2Kw5g=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=WpAk9bvEER/9sg866UVoYkr58JPTpkJ1luBmH+Nj8ipwdukih7j3WMmf3yPxx9e9CWBmNSLiJc+BbKKA6VFzxR83bjWmlDHHfIQqYl0WPoHcd6PljGaNTS+C1ngO9U4PgfVU6eCCkZq3yhCxsXmftsC5Ej7qPFgwITikXca8joQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.intel.com; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux.intel.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b=kKFbLyj+; arc=none smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.14 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux.intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b="kKFbLyj+" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1745315920; x=1776851920; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=/btNzVZUGF5ZbZBH1sHWNc6Gckz9bD0aHejVWH2Kw5g=; b=kKFbLyj+1bPc2XNQwmkiWOZagxCO37Iw7SizhbHG6z82q0ijuTU3WGuC q3vcAP8Il899XoG9rkm5jkad/62AzaKtNRHNjPoF72wPlZC9eUBMuhlFv 3ejiT6eHdUYTm9oteD6k/OMAz7vmFZ8pyqaB/GDRqARyhdAQyICCtpulE ogJbXh1EAFT4KBq3llI8EJJWuZMSNEMCoiT4UQnCnoe6fyISQkBkNIg8m AUerQzpk2jJFLpjWuw+CD2eSy3V/4gIAnU6+vZaxzlONPViMXavp81FCb n8CA1FdL0QCZqOW7wvXVgOnYVP9nOYnZ+LKpuGc2nYrmYZqq4NSM6njas A==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: qrckCHlKQJ6k+HfV7BV3Lw== X-CSE-MsgGUID: ntA0XzhuQ1a3vpBuNRcgsw== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6700,10204,11410"; a="47048431" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.15,230,1739865600"; d="scan'208";a="47048431" Received: from orviesa007.jf.intel.com ([10.64.159.147]) by fmvoesa108.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Apr 2025 02:58:39 -0700 X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: Cq3qOo41T0y/oIgSrSPeag== X-CSE-MsgGUID: 0huv+qHiT+WvaGiuvmVhaA== X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.15,230,1739865600"; d="scan'208";a="132506418" Received: from turnipsi.fi.intel.com (HELO kekkonen.fi.intel.com) ([10.237.72.44]) by orviesa007-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Apr 2025 02:58:32 -0700 Received: from kekkonen.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kekkonen.fi.intel.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7640B11FA2F; Tue, 22 Apr 2025 12:58:29 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 09:58:29 +0000 Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo From: Sakari Ailus To: Hans Verkuil Cc: Linux Media Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Laurent Pinchart , Sean Young , Ricardo Ribalda , Nicolas Dufresne , Jacopo Mondi , Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derlund?= , Tomi Valkeinen , Alain Volmat , Bryan O'Donoghue , Dave Stevenson , Daniel Almeida , Michael Tretter , Tomasz Figa , "Hu, Jerry W" , Steve Cho , Kieran Bingham , Kevin Hilman , Paul Kocialkowski , Benjamin Mugnier , Hans Verkuil , Arthur Vinchon , Marco Felsch , Jackson Lee , Mirela Rabulea , Hans de Goede , Jai Luthra , Devarsh Thakkar , Maxime Ripard Subject: Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v2) Message-ID: References: <71a1ba46-04c3-4694-95e7-9e2906b1d899@jjverkuil.nl> <34e53856-1a6b-4db2-b6ce-a8862c415034@jjverkuil.nl> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <34e53856-1a6b-4db2-b6ce-a8862c415034@jjverkuil.nl> Hi Hans, On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 09:59:38AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On 22/04/2025 09:33, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > Hi Hans, > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 02:31:34PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: > >> Also, as you can see we are light on topics, so don't hesitate to add more. > > > > I'd like to propose identifying camera modules as a topic. > > > > The camera module isn't a functional component in the system and so has > > (mostly) been omitted in system firmware as well as UAPI. Being able to > > identify it, however, is becoming more and more important as the user space > > becomes less and less system specific, largely thanks to libcamera. This > > isn't just about passing information to the userspace as identifying the > > modules themselves is a problem on its own. > > > > I intend to post an RFC set regarding this to LMML at least a week before > > the summit. > > > > Thank you, I added this to the draft agenda. Do you have a guesstimate for the time you'll need? I'd guess from 30 to 45 minutes, but it heavily depends on how much there will be discussion. -- Sakari Ailus