From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Jon Pan-Doh <pandoh@google.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Karolina Stolarek <karolina.stolarek@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/20] ratelimit: Force re-initialization when rate-limiting re-enabled
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:05:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBDAptg0sMY8Pdt7@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58153904-1d2f-44aa-b97d-56486e91a787@paulmck-laptop>
On Mon 2025-04-28 12:49:18, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 05:33:38PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Thu 2025-04-24 17:28:17, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Currently, rate limiting being disabled results in an immediate early
> > > return with no state changes. This can result in false-positive drops
> > > when re-enabling rate limiting. Therefore, mark the ratelimit_state
> > > structure "uninitialized" when rate limiting is disabled.
> > >
> > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/fbe93a52-365e-47fe-93a4-44a44547d601@paulmck-laptop/
> > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250423115409.3425-1-spasswolf@web.de/
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > > Cc: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>
> > > Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> > > Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
> > > Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
> > > ---
> > > lib/ratelimit.c | 15 ++++++++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/lib/ratelimit.c b/lib/ratelimit.c
> > > index 7a7ba4835639f..52aab9229ca50 100644
> > > --- a/lib/ratelimit.c
> > > +++ b/lib/ratelimit.c
> > > @@ -35,11 +35,24 @@ int ___ratelimit(struct ratelimit_state *rs, const char *func)
> > > unsigned long flags;
> > > int ret;
> > >
> > > + /*
> > > + * Zero interval says never limit, otherwise, non-positive burst
> > > + * says always limit.
> > > + */
> > > if (interval <= 0 || burst <= 0) {
> > > ret = interval == 0 || burst > 0;
> > > + if (!(READ_ONCE(rs->flags) & RATELIMIT_INITIALIZED) ||
> > > + !raw_spin_trylock_irqsave(&rs->lock, flags)) {
> >
> > I though more about this. And I am not sure if this is safe.
> >
> > We are here when the structure has not been initialized yet.
> > The spin lock is going to be likely still initialized.
> > In theory, it might happen in parallel:
> >
> > CPU0 CPU1
> >
> > ___ratelimit()
> > if (interval <= 0 || burst <= 0)
> > // true on zero initialized struct
> >
> > if (!(READ_ONCE(rs->flags) & RATELIMIT_INITIALIZED) ||
> > // same here
> > !raw_spin_trylock_irqsave(&rs->lock, flags)) {
> > // success???
> >
> > ratelimit_state_init()
> > raw_spin_lock_init(&rs->lock);
> >
> >
> > raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rs->lock, flags);
> >
> > BANG: Unlocked rs->lock which has been initialized in the meantime.
> >
> >
> > Note: The non-initialized structure can be used in ext4 code,
> > definitely, see
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/aAnp9rdPhRY52F7N@pathway.suse.cz
> >
> > Well, I think that it happens in the same CPU. So, it should
> > be "safe".
> >
> >
> > Sigh, I guess that this patch is needed to fix the lib/tests/test_ratelimit.c.
> > It works because the test modifies .burst and .interval directly.
> >
> > What is a sane behavior/API?
> >
> > IMHO:
> >
> > 1. Nobody, including ext4 code, should use non-initialized
> > struct ratelimit_state. It is a ticking bomb.
> >
> > IMHO, it should trigger a warning and the callers should get fixed.
>
> I agree in principle, but in practice it will at best take some time to
> drive the change into the other systems. So let's make the this code
> work with the existing client code, get that accepted, and then separately
> I can do another round of cleanup. (Or you can, if you prefer.)
>
> After that, the WARN_ONCE() can be upgraded to complain if both interval
> and burst are zero.
Fair enough. This patchset already is huge...
> > 2. Nobody, including the selftest, should modify struct ratelimit_state
> > directly.
> >
> > This patchset adds ratelimit_state_reset_interval() for this
> > purpose. It clears ~RATELIMIT_INITIALIZED. So this patch won't
> > be needed when the API was used in the selftest.
> >
> > It was actually great that ___ratelimit() was able to handle
> > non-initialized struct ratelimit_state without taking
> > the bundled lock.
> >
> > What do you think, please?
>
> Hmmm...
>
> It sounds like I need to avoid acquiring that lock if both interval
> and burst are zero. A bit inelegant, but it seems to be what needs
> to happen.
>
> In the short term, how about the patch shown below?
> Thanx, Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> diff --git a/lib/ratelimit.c b/lib/ratelimit.c
> index 626f04cabb727..859c251b23ce2 100644
> --- a/lib/ratelimit.c
> +++ b/lib/ratelimit.c
> @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ int ___ratelimit(struct ratelimit_state *rs, const char *func)
> if (interval <= 0 || burst <= 0) {
> WARN_ONCE(interval < 0 || burst < 0, "Negative interval (%d) or burst (%d): Uninitialized ratelimit_state structure?\n", interval, burst);
> ret = interval == 0 || burst > 0;
> - if (!(READ_ONCE(rs->flags) & RATELIMIT_INITIALIZED) ||
> + if (!(READ_ONCE(rs->flags) & RATELIMIT_INITIALIZED) || (!interval && !burst) ||
> !raw_spin_trylock_irqsave(&rs->lock, flags))
> goto nolock_ret;
>
It looks good as a short term solution.
Let's see how long it would stay in the code. ;-)
Best Regards,
Petr
PS: I am not sure how much you are motivated on doing a further
clean up. You did great changes. But I guess that it has already
went much further than you expected.
I could continue when time permits. But I rather do not
promise anything.
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Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-03 21:14 [PATCH RFC 0/9] Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] ratelimit: Create functions to handle ratelimit_state internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] random: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's ->missed field Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] drm/i915: " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] drm/amd/pm: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-07 14:35 ` Deucher, Alexander
2025-04-07 16:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] ratelimit: Convert the ->missed field to atomic_t Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] ratelimit: Count misses due to lock contention Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] ratelimit: Avoid jiffies=0 special case Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] ratelimit: Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-05 9:17 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-06 17:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-07 0:07 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-07 16:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-08 16:41 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-08 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-03 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 01/14] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-22 14:44 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-22 22:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-23 9:36 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 02/14] ratelimit: Create functions to handle ratelimit_state internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 03/14] random: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's ->missed field Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 04/14] drm/i915: " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 05/14] drm/amd/pm: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 06/14] ratelimit: Convert the ->missed field to atomic_t Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 07/14] ratelimit: Count misses due to lock contention Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 08/14] ratelimit: Avoid jiffies=0 special case Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 09/14] ratelimit: Reduce ___ratelimit() false-positive rate limiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 10/14] ratelimit: Allow zero ->burst to disable ratelimiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 11/14] ratelimit: Force re-initialization when rate-limiting re-enabled Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-23 15:59 ` Mark Brown
2025-04-23 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-23 18:59 ` Mark Brown
2025-04-23 19:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-24 12:11 ` Mark Brown
2025-04-24 14:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 12/14] ratelimit: Don't flush misses counter if RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 13/14] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement if already rate-limited Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-18 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 ratelimit 14/14] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement under lock " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-22 14:50 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Petr Mladek
2025-04-22 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] ratelimit: Create functions to handle ratelimit_state internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] random: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's ->missed field Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] drm/i915: " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 8:48 ` Jani Nikula
2025-04-25 14:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] drm/amd/pm: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] ratelimit: Convert the ->missed field to atomic_t Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] ratelimit: Count misses due to lock contention Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] ratelimit: Avoid jiffies=0 special case Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] ratelimit: Reduce ___ratelimit() false-positive rate limiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] ratelimit: Allow zero ->burst to disable ratelimiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-28 14:57 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-28 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] ratelimit: Force re-initialization when rate-limiting re-enabled Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-28 15:33 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-28 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 12:05 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2025-04-29 18:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] ratelimit: Don't flush misses counter if RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement if already rate-limited Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement under lock " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] ratelimit: Warn if ->interval or ->burst are negative Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 12:23 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-29 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] ratelimit: Simplify common-case exit path Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 14:25 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to save a couple of lines of code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 14:26 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to collapse lock-failure code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 14:31 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret restructuring to collapse common case code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-29 14:37 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-25 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] ratelimit: Drop redundant accesses to burst Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 0/20] ratelimit: Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] ratelimit: Create functions to handle ratelimit_state internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] random: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's ->missed field Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] drm/i915: " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] drm/amd/pm: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] ratelimit: Convert the ->missed field to atomic_t Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] ratelimit: Count misses due to lock contention Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] ratelimit: Avoid jiffies=0 special case Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] ratelimit: Reduce ___ratelimit() false-positive rate limiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] ratelimit: Allow zero ->burst to disable ratelimiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] ratelimit: Force re-initialization when rate-limiting re-enabled Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-05 10:20 ` Petr Mladek
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] ratelimit: Don't flush misses counter if RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement if already rate-limited Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement under lock " Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] ratelimit: Warn if ->interval or ->burst are negative Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] ratelimit: Simplify common-case exit path Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to save a couple of lines of code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to collapse lock-failure code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret restructuring to collapse common case code Paul E. McKenney
2025-04-30 1:05 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] ratelimit: Drop redundant accesses to burst Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-05 11:14 ` Petr Mladek
2025-05-05 11:37 ` [PATCH v4 0/20] ratelimit: Reduce ratelimit's false-positive misses Petr Mladek
2025-05-05 15:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:32 ` [PATCH v5 0/21] " Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] ratelimit: Create functions to handle ratelimit_state internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] random: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's ->missed field Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] drm/i915: " Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] drm/amd/pm: Avoid open-coded use of ratelimit_state structure's internals Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] ratelimit: Convert the ->missed field to atomic_t Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] ratelimit: Count misses due to lock contention Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] ratelimit: Avoid jiffies=0 special case Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] ratelimit: Reduce ___ratelimit() false-positive rate limiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] ratelimit: Allow zero ->burst to disable ratelimiting Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] ratelimit: Force re-initialization when rate-limiting re-enabled Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] ratelimit: Don't flush misses counter if RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement if already rate-limited Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] ratelimit: Avoid atomic decrement under lock " Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] ratelimit: Warn if ->interval or ->burst are negative Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] ratelimit: Simplify common-case exit path Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to save a couple of lines of code Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret label to collapse lock-failure code Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] ratelimit: Use nolock_ret restructuring to collapse common case code Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] ratelimit: Drop redundant accesses to burst Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-12 15:22 ` Petr Mladek
2025-05-13 21:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-08 23:33 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] lib: Add stress " Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 18:00 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] ratelimit: Add tests for lib/ratelimit.c Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] lib: Add trivial kunit test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-09 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 23:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] lib: Make the ratelimit test more reliable Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-09 23:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-09 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] lib: Add stress test for ratelimit Paul E. McKenney
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