From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Doug Berger <opendmb@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/topology: clear freecpu bit on detach
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 15:02:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBTCWPSXgu9cId6D@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <609e6fe5-2893-4c13-8e52-e9df05146ffb@gmail.com>
Hi,
On 29/04/25 10:15, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>
>
> On 4/22/2025 9:48 PM, Doug Berger wrote:
> > There is a hazard in the deadline scheduler where an offlined CPU
> > can have its free_cpus bit left set in the def_root_domain when
> > the schedutil cpufreq governor is used. This can allow a deadline
> > thread to be pushed to the runqueue of a powered down CPU which
> > breaks scheduling. The details can be found here:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250110233010.2339521-1-opendmb@gmail.com
> >
> > The free_cpus mask is expected to be cleared by set_rq_offline();
> > however, the hazard occurs before the root domain is made online
> > during CPU hotplug so that function is not invoked for the CPU
> > that is being made active.
> >
> > This commit works around the issue by ensuring the free_cpus bit
> > for a CPU is always cleared when the CPU is removed from a
> > root_domain. This likely makes the call of cpudl_clear_freecpu()
> > in rq_offline_dl() fully redundant, but I have not removed it
> > here because I am not certain of all flows.
> >
> > It seems likely that a better solution is possible from someone
> > more familiar with the scheduler implementation, but this
> > approach is minimally invasive from someone who is not.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Doug Berger <opendmb@gmail.com>
> > ---
>
> FWIW, we were able to reproduce this with the attached hotplug.sh script
> which would just randomly hot plug/unplug CPUs (./hotplug.sh 4). Within a
> few hundred of iterations you could see the lock up occur, it's unclear why
> this has not been seen by more people.
>
> Since this is not the first posting or attempt at fixing this bug [1] and we
> consider it to be a serious one, can this be reviewed/commented on/applied?
> Thanks!
>
> [1]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/1/14/1687
So, going back to the initial report, the thing that makes me a bit
uncomfortable with the suggested change is the worry that it might be
plastering over a more fundamental issue. Not against it, though, and I
really appreciate Doug's analysis and proposed fixes!
Doug wrote:
"Initially, CPU0 and CPU1 are active and CPU2 and CPU3 have been
previously offlined so their runqueues are attached to the
def_root_domain.
1) A hot plug is initiated on CPU2.
2) The cpuhp/2 thread invokes the cpufreq governor driver during
the CPUHP_AP_ONLINE_DYN step.
3) The sched util cpufreq governor creates the "sugov:2" thread to
execute on CPU2 with the deadline scheduler.
4) The deadline scheduler clears the free_cpus mask for CPU2 within
the def_root_domain when "sugov:2" is scheduled."
I wonder if it's OK to schedule sugov:2 on a CPU that didn't reach yet
complete online state. Peter, others, what do you think?
Thanks,
Juri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-02 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-22 19:48 [PATCH] sched/topology: clear freecpu bit on detach Doug Berger
2025-04-29 8:15 ` Florian Fainelli
2025-05-02 13:02 ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2025-05-23 18:14 ` Florian Fainelli
2025-06-03 16:18 ` Florian Fainelli
2025-06-11 20:06 ` Florian Fainelli
2025-07-25 22:33 ` Doug Berger
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=aBTCWPSXgu9cId6D@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb \
--to=juri.lelli@redhat.com \
--cc=bsegall@google.com \
--cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
--cc=f.fainelli@gmail.com \
--cc=florian.fainelli@broadcom.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mgorman@suse.de \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=opendmb@gmail.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
--cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.