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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/13] KVM: x86: Generalize private fault lookups to guest_memfd fault lookups
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 06:58:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBoVbJZEcQ2OeXhG@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH9AVUiFsSELhmt4p24fssN2x7sXnUqn39r31GbA0h39Sw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 05, 2025, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 10:17 PM Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 3:57 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > And not worry about lpage_infor for the time being, until we actually do
> > > > support larger pages.
> > >
> > > I don't want to completely punt on this, because if it gets messy, then I want
> > > to know now and have a solution in hand, not find out N months from now.
> > >
> > > That said, I don't expect it to be difficult.  What we could punt on is
> > > performance of the lookups, which is the real reason KVM maintains the rather
> > > expensive disallow_lpage array.
> > >
> > > And that said, memslots can only bind to one guest_memfd instance, so I don't
> > > immediately see any reason why the guest_memfd ioctl() couldn't process the
> > > slots that are bound to it.  I.e. why not update KVM_LPAGE_MIXED_FLAG from the
> > > guest_memfd ioctl() instead of from KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES?
> >
> > I am missing the point here to update KVM_LPAGE_MIXED_FLAG for the
> > scenarios where in-place memory conversion will be supported with
> > guest_memfd. As guest_memfd support for hugepages comes with the
> > design that hugepages can't have mixed attributes. i.e. max_order
> > returned by get_pfn will always have the same attributes for the folio
> > range.

Oh, if this will naturally be handled by guest_memfd, then do that.  I was purely
reacting to David's suggestion to "not worry about lpage_infor for the time being,
until we actually do support larger pages".

> > Is your suggestion around using guest_memfd ioctl() to also toggle
> > memory attributes for the scenarios where guest_memfd instance doesn't
> > have in-place memory conversion feature enabled?
> 
> Reading more into your response, I guess your suggestion is about
> covering different usecases present today and new usecases which may
> land in future, that rely on kvm_lpage_info for faster lookup. If so,
> then it should be easy to modify guest_memfd ioctl to update
> kvm_lpage_info as you suggested.

Nah, I just missed/forgot that using a single guest_memfd for private and shared
would naturally need to split the folio and thus this would Just Work.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30 16:56 [PATCH v8 00/13] KVM: Mapping guest_memfd backed memory at the host for software protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 01/13] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 17:38   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 02/13] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:10   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-02  6:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 14:24       ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 03/13] KVM: Rename kvm_arch_has_private_mem() to kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:18   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 04/13] KVM: x86: Rename kvm->arch.has_private_mem to kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:19   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 05/13] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 21:37   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 06/13] KVM: x86: Generalize private fault lookups to guest_memfd fault lookups Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 18:58   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-01  9:53     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-02 15:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 16:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-02 22:00         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-05  8:01           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 22:57             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-06  5:17               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06  5:28                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 13:58                   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-05-06 14:15                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06 20:46                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-08 14:12                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-08 14:46                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 21:04                         ` James Houghton
2025-05-09 22:29                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 22:38                             ` James Houghton
2025-05-06 19:27               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-05 23:09             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-05 23:17               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-01 21:38   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 07/13] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-01 21:43   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-02 12:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 08/13] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-01  8:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-02 15:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 22:06     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-02 22:29   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-06  8:47     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-05 21:06   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-06 12:15     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-07  8:12   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-09 20:54   ` James Houghton
2025-05-11  8:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-12  7:08       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-12 19:29         ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  7:46       ` Roy, Patrick
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 09/13] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 10/13] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-05-09 20:15   ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  7:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 11/13] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-05-09 21:08   ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  6:55     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 12/13] KVM: x86: KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VM to support guest_memfd shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 13/13] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba

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