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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/22] iommufd: Add mmap interface
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 13:54:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBp28sjZpPfDUfYr@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250506125425.GX2260709@nvidia.com>

On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:54:25AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 01:07:34PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 02:28:13PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 10:21:03AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > +void iommufd_ctx_free_mmap(struct iommufd_ctx *ictx, unsigned long immap_id)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	kfree(mtree_erase(&ictx->mt_mmap, immap_id >> PAGE_SHIFT));
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > MMIO lifecycle question: what happens if a region is removed from the
> > > > > > maple tree (and is therefore no longer mappable), but is still mapped
> > > > > > and in use by userspace?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think we should probably zap it and make any existing VMAs
> > > > > SIGBUS... Otherwise it is hard to reason about from the kernel side
> > > > 
> > > > I added in v3 a pair of open/close op that would refcount the
> > > > vIOMMU object (owner of the mmap region). This would EBUSY the
> > > > vIOMMU destroy ioctl that would call this function.
> > > 
> > > That's no good, we can't have VMAs prevent cleaning up iommufd
> > 
> > Hmm, would you please elaborate why?
> 
> It would create weird dependencies in the kernel that become hard to
> manage. If we really need to unplug the PFNs behind the VMA for some
> reason then we should always allow that to progress. Requiring the VMA
> to be unmapped first is not great.

OK.

Now I start to think about the FD situation: either a fault queue or
an eventq returns an FD and holds a refcount on the event object. So
the event object can't be destroyed unless the FD is released first.
Are we doing it incorrectly here?

> > > objects, the right thing is to zap it with invalidate_mapping_range()
> > 
> > Also, I can't find much info about invalidate_mapping_range(). Is
> > it a user space call?
> 
> unmap_mapping_range(), see how VFIO uses it.

I see! It just needs to call that function when we remove the mmap
for a vIOMMU destroy().

> > I do see a few drivers defining a fault op in vm_operations_struct,
> > where VM_FAULT_SIGBUS is returned when there is page backing up the
> > VMAs. Is it what we need here?
> 
> Probably as well

Once the vma is unmapped, any further access would trigger a fault,
right? That's how it works.

I see do_fault() report a VM_FAULT_SIGBUS, when !vma->vm_ops->fault.
So, perhaps we don't need an iommufd fault op at this moment.

Thanks
Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-07  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-26  5:57 [PATCH v2 00/22] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 vCMDQ) Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/22] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-allocated vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  6:23   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28  0:41     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-28 18:08       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/22] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_alloc op Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  6:31   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 17:19     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 17:28       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/22] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  6:36   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 17:52   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-30 14:58   ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-04-26  5:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/22] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  6:39   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 17:50   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-28 18:21     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29  8:31       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 05/22] iommufd: Add iommufd_struct_destroy to revert iommufd_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  6:55   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 17:24     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 06/22] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 18:56   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 07/22] iommufd/selftest: Add covearge for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 19:02   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 08/22] iommufd: Abstract iopt_pin_pages and iopt_unpin_pages helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-04-27  7:22   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 17:41     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 15:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 15:44         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 15:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 16:03             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 16:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 16:19                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 16:56                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-28 20:14   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-28 22:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 23:34       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 18:03         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-05-06  9:36   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-06 19:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07  7:22       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-07  7:36         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07  7:51           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 09/22] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_VCMDQ and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28  1:09   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 18:10     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 15:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 15:45         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 21:01   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] iommufd/viommmu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_VCMDQ_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28  1:32   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 18:58     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29  6:11       ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 12:12   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-28 20:02     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29  5:34       ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-29  6:45         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 10:22           ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-29 17:14             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-30  4:22               ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-30  8:01                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-30 10:21                   ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-06  9:25               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-06 20:12                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07  7:25                   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-07  7:37                     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07 12:33                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 20:51                         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 21:34   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-28 22:44     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29  8:28       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 18:10         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 18:15           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 18:57             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] iommufd: Add for-driver helpers iommufd_vcmdq_depend/undepend() Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28  2:22   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 18:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 12:40   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 17:10     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 17:59       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 18:07         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 18:44           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_VCMDQ_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28  2:50   ` Baolu Lu
2025-04-28 18:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 16:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 17:21       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 17:28         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 20:07           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-06  9:22             ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-06 12:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 12:54             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 20:54               ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-05-07 12:36                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 20:49                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 20:24   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 20:34     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 20:39       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 20:55         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 21:05           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 21:35             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 21:46               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 21:57                 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-05-05 16:55                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 17:27                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 17:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-05 19:50                       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-06 12:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 19:30                           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07 12:39                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 21:09                               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07 22:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-08  3:49                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-08  9:15                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-08 12:12                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-08 17:14                                         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 18:47                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update vCMDQ Nicolin Chen
2025-04-28 14:31   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-04-28 19:00     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_alloc impl op Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 21:36   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Support implementation-defined hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 21:44   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 21:47   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 22:05   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 20:43   ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-04-29 22:32   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-29 22:37     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-29 19:47   ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-04-29 21:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-30 21:59   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-30 22:39     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-01  0:54       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-01 21:46         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-05-01 21:45       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-26  5:58 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen
2025-04-30 15:07   ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-04-30 22:03   ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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