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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, hreitz@redhat.com, mpatocka@redhat.com,
	snitzer@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] dm mpath: Interface for explicit probing of active paths
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 22:52:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCbSj9HLGJD1dK3u@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCNzf7MJa-hLQpmv@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 12:29:51PM -0400, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 11:49:19PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 08:32:12AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> > > Reservations and stuff.
> > 
> > They should use the kernel persistent reservation API.
> 
> Currently QEMU isn't sending Persistent Reservation requests to
> multipath devices at all. It's sending those directly to the underlying
> scsi devices. The issue here is with all the other SCSI commands that
> users want to send to their SCSI passthrough device that is actually a
> multipath device on top of a number of SCSI paths. They expect to
> get back the actual sense and status information, so QEMU needs to
> send them via SG_IOs.

And that's the problem.  There is plenty of path (I_T_L) nexus
specific information in SCSI, and just trying to glob it back
together above means you'll get path specific information in something
that doesn't claim to be multi-pathing and will get random and
changing results depending on the underlying path selection.

> Without reading that sense and status information in kernel, the
> multipath target can't know if it needs to fail a path and retry the
> ioctl down a different path.

The blk_status_t has the information to fail over.  But the whole
idea of implementing SG_IO in dm-mpath or any other stacking layer
is just really, really dangerous.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 16:50 [PATCH 0/2] dm mpath: Interface for explicit probing of active paths Kevin Wolf
2025-04-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] dm: Allow .prepare_ioctl to handle ioctls directly Kevin Wolf
2025-04-29 23:22   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-08 13:50   ` Martin Wilck
2025-04-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] dm mpath: Interface for explicit probing of active paths Kevin Wolf
2025-04-29 23:22   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-08 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Martin Wilck
2025-05-12 13:46   ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-05-13  7:06     ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-12 15:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-13  5:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-13  6:09       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-13  6:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-13  6:32           ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-13  6:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-13  8:17               ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-14  4:53                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-15 11:14                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-13 16:29               ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-14  4:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-14  6:39                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-14 16:01                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-16  5:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-05-13  9:29       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-13 15:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-14  4:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-14 16:23           ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-14 17:37             ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-15  2:53               ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-15 10:34                 ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-15 10:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-15 14:50                     ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-15 14:29                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-15 15:00                     ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-16  5:57                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-13  6:30     ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-05-13 18:09       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-13  8:00     ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-13 10:06       ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-14 21:21       ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-15 10:11         ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 11:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-15 15:18             ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-15 15:05           ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-16  6:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-16 16:06             ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-19  5:32               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-19 18:24                 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-05-28 20:44                 ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-19 10:06             ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-19 17:33             ` Martin Wilck
2025-05-20 13:46               ` Christoph Hellwig

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