From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
miklos@szeredi.hu, djwong@kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/8] iomap: add IOMAP_IN_MEM iomap type
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:08:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEkdT-gCSA75OVNv@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnrk1b8edbe8svuZXLtvWBnsNhY14hBCXhoqNXdHM6=df6YAg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 11:00:51PM -0700, Joanne Koong wrote:
> Not a great idea, but theoretically we could stash that info (offset
> and len) in the folio->private iomap_folio_state struct. I don't think
> that runs into synchronization issues since it would be set and
> cleared while the file lock is held for that read.
Yeah, I thought about it, but there's no simple hole, so we'd bloat
a long living structure for short-term argument passing.
So I've been thinking of maybe sticking to something similar to
your version, but with a few tweaks. Let me cook up a patch for
review.
> But regardless I think we still need a new variant of read_folio
> because if a non block-io iomap wants to use iomap_read_folio() /
> iomap_readahead() for the granular uptodate parsing logic that's in
> there, it'll need to provide a method for reading a partial folio. I
> initially wasn't planning to have fuse use iomap_read_folio() /
> iomap_readahead() but I realized there's some cases where fuse will
> find it useful, so i'm planning to add that in.
Heh. How much of the iomap code can you reuse vs just using another
variant that shareds the uptodate/dirty bitmaps?
> > variant of read_folio that allows partial reads might still be nicer
> > than a iomap_folio_op. Let me draft that and see if willy or other mm
> > folks choke on it :)
>
> writeback_folio() is also a VM level concept so under that same logic,
> should writeback_folio() also be an address space operation?
Not really. Yes, writing back a part of a folio is high level in
concept, but you really need quite a lot of iomap speific in practive.
>
> A more general question i've been trying to figure out is if the
> vision is that iomap is going to be the defacto generic library that
> all/most filesystems will be using in the future?
That's always been my plan. But it's not been overly successful
so far.
> If so then it makes
> sense to me to add this to the address space operations but if not
> then I don't think I see the hate for having the folio callbacks be
> embedded in iomap_folio_op.
I'd really avoid sticking something that is just a callback into the
address_space operations. We've done that for write_begin/write_end
and it has turned out to be a huge mess. Something in the aops
must be callable standalone and not depend on a very specific caller
context.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-11 6:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-06 23:37 [PATCH v1 0/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] iomap: move buffered io bio logic into separate file Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:17 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 4:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 20:01 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] iomap: add IOMAP_IN_MEM iomap type Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 21:45 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:13 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 4:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 6:00 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-11 18:33 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 18:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-11 23:08 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 4:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:24 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 21:28 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 3:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] iomap: add buffered write support for IOMAP_IN_MEM iomaps Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 22:45 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 22:03 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-12 3:54 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 23:37 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] iomap: add writepages " Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 5:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 16:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-10 3:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 3:56 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 23:15 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 18:23 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 18:58 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-11 4:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] iomap: add iomap_writeback_dirty_folio() Joanne Koong
2025-06-09 4:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 17:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-09 23:54 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 3:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 4:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-18 4:47 ` does fuse need ->launder_folios, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-18 12:17 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-20 18:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-25 5:26 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-25 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 16:44 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01 5:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 21:36 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 21:47 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01 6:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-06-09 23:30 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 4:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes Joanne Koong
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] fuse: use iomap for writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:20 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-06 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] fuse: use iomap for folio laundering Joanne Koong
2025-06-08 19:12 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 19:59 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-14 14:22 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 4:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09 12:38 ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-09 19:47 ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-10 4:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-10 4:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:33 ` Joanne Koong
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