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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Dibin Moolakadan Subrahmanian
	<dibin.moolakadan.subrahmanian@intel.com>,
	Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Matt Wagantall <mattw@codeaurora.org>,
	Dejin Zheng <zhengdejin5@gmail.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] DO-NOT-MERGE: drm/i915: Use poll_timeout_us()
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 15:50:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGZ8s2mQCmvYK7w1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bca3e31879af4ba4abd9cb3c5bd89e80ec013f1@intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 03:12:39PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2025, Ville Syrjala <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > Make sure poll_timeout_us() works by using it in i915
> > instead of the custom __wait_for().
> >
> > Remaining difference between two:
> >                | poll_timeout_us() | __wait_for()
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > backoff        | fixed interval    | exponential
> > usleep_range() | N/4+1 to N        | N to N*2
> > clock          | MONOTONIC         | MONOTONIC_RAW
> >
> > Just a test hack for now, proper conversion probably
> > needs actual thought.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I feel pretty strongly about converting everything to use
> poll_timeout_us() and poll_timeout_us_atomic() directly. I think the
> plethora of wait_for variants in i915_utils.h is more confusing than
> helpful (even if some of them are supposed to be "simpler"
> alternatives). I also think the separate atomic variant is better than
> magically deciding that based on delay length.
> 
> I'm also not all that convinced about the exponential wait. Not all of
> the wait_for versions use it, and then it needs to have a max wait
> anyway (we have an issue with xe not having that [1]). I believe callers
> can decide on a sleep length that is appropriate for the timeout, case
> by case, and gut feeling says it's probably fine. ;)

Yeah, we've not really done any work to justify the polling interval/backoff
strategy. At some point it would be nice to collect some statistics to see
what the typical wait durations are, and then perhaps tune the polling
interval on a case by case basis to be at least somewhat optimal (short
enough to not cause significant delays, but long enough to avoid excessive
polling).

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 22:34 [PATCH 1/4] iopoll: Generalize read_poll_timeout() into poll_timeout_us() Ville Syrjala
2025-07-02 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] iopoll: Avoid evaluating 'cond' twice in poll_timeout_us() Ville Syrjala
2025-07-03 11:55   ` Jani Nikula
2025-07-02 22:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] iopoll: Reorder the timeout handling " Ville Syrjala
2025-07-03 12:00   ` Jani Nikula
2025-07-02 22:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] DO-NOT-MERGE: drm/i915: Use poll_timeout_us() Ville Syrjala
2025-07-03 12:12   ` Jani Nikula
2025-07-03 12:50     ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2025-07-02 23:05 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for series starting with [1/4] iopoll: Generalize read_poll_timeout() into poll_timeout_us() Patchwork
2025-07-02 23:06 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-07-02 23:58 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-07-03  0:05 ` ✓ i915.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-07-03  8:56 ` ✓ i915.CI.Full: " Patchwork
2025-07-03 11:51 ` [PATCH 1/4] " Jani Nikula
2025-07-03 14:28 ` Lucas De Marchi
2025-07-04  8:40   ` Jani Nikula
2025-07-04 14:34 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure for series starting with [1/4] " Patchwork
2025-07-08 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Ville Syrjala
2025-07-15 18:20   ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-31  8:51     ` Jani Nikula
2025-08-26 10:56       ` Jani Nikula
2025-07-08 14:46 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for series starting with [v2,1/4] iopoll: Generalize read_poll_timeout() into poll_timeout_us() (rev2) Patchwork
2025-07-08 14:47 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-07-08 15:28 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-07-08 16:46 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure " Patchwork
2025-07-08 18:04 ` ✓ i915.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2025-07-08 23:14 ` ✓ i915.CI.Full: " Patchwork

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