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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: phy: Don't register LEDs for genphy
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 09:58:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGzduaQp3hWA5V-i@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250707195803.666097-1-sean.anderson@linux.dev>

On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 03:58:03PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
> If a PHY has no driver, the genphy driver is probed/removed directly in
> phy_attach/detach. If the PHY's ofnode has an "leds" subnode, then the
> LEDs will be (un)registered when probing/removing the genphy driver.

Maybe checking whether the PHY driver supports LEDs would be more
sensible than checking whether it's one of the genphy drivers?

> This could occur if the leds are for a non-generic driver that isn't
> loaded for whatever reason. Synchronously removing the PHY device in
> phy_detach leads to the following deadlock:
> 
> rtnl_lock()
> ndo_close()
>     ...
>     phy_detach()
>         phy_remove()
>             phy_leds_unregister()
>                 led_classdev_unregister()
>                     led_trigger_set()
>                         netdev_trigger_deactivate()
>                             unregister_netdevice_notifier()
>                                 rtnl_lock()
> 
> There is a corresponding deadlock on the open/register side of things
> (and that one is reported by lockdep), but it requires a race while this
> one is deterministic.

Doesn't this deadlock exist irrespective of whether the genphy driver(s)
are being used, and whether or not the PHY driver supports LEDs?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-08  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07 19:58 [PATCH net] net: phy: Don't register LEDs for genphy Sean Anderson
2025-07-07 23:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-08 15:52   ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 17:40     ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 17:52       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 18:17         ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 18:49           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 18:57             ` Sean Anderson
2025-07-10 19:09               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-08  8:58 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-07-08 15:33   ` Sean Anderson

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