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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	 Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	 "binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	 "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	 Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/1] KVM: TDX: Decrease TDX VM shutdown time
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 15:54:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aHGWI5_BsFg1JJCx@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08cef2fec1426330d32ada6b2de662d8837f2fb1.camel@intel.com>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, Rick P Edgecombe wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 07:19 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > Bugger, you're right.  It's sitting at the top of 'kvm-x86 vmx', so it
> > > > should be
> > > > easy enough to tack on a capability.
> > > > 
> > > > This?
> > > 
> > > I'm wondering if we need a TDX centralized enumeration interface, e.g., new
> > > field in struct kvm_tdx_capabilities. I believe there will be more and more
> > > TDX new features, and assigning each a KVM_CAP seems wasteful.
> > 
> > Oh, yeah, that's a much better idea.  In addition to not polluting KVM_CAP,
> 
> How do you guys see it as wasteful? The highest cap is currently 242. For 32 bit
> KVM that leaves 2147483405 caps. If we create an interface we grow some code and
> docs, and get 64 additional ones for TDX only.

It bleeds TDX details into arch neutral code.

> The less interfaces the better I say, so KVM_CAP_TDX_TERMINATE_VM seems better.

But we already have KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES.  This isn't really a new interface, it's
a new field in a pre-existing interface.

> Xiaoyao, is this something QEMU needs? Or more of a completeness kind of thing?

Required by VMMs.  KVM always needs to be able enumerate its new features.  We
absolutely do not want userspace making guesses based on e.g. kernel version.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-11 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  9:51 [PATCH V4 0/1] KVM: TDX: Decrease TDX VM shutdown time Adrian Hunter
2025-06-11  9:51 ` [PATCH V4 1/1] KVM: TDX: Add sub-ioctl KVM_TDX_TERMINATE_VM Adrian Hunter
2025-06-16  3:40   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  5:50     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-18  6:00       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  8:33         ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-19  0:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-19 11:12             ` Adrian Hunter
2025-06-20 14:24               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-20 16:14                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 16:26                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-23 20:36                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 21:39                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-23 23:35                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 18:59                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-20 21:21                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-20 23:34                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-21  3:00                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 16:23                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 20:22                           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-23 22:51                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 22:07         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23 20:40   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25 22:25 ` [PATCH V4 0/1] KVM: TDX: Decrease TDX VM shutdown time Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26 15:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-26 19:52     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-07-11  8:55     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-11 13:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 13:40         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-11 14:19           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 22:31             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 22:54               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-07-11 23:04                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 23:00             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11 23:05               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:17                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-14  3:20                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-14 13:56                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 15:06                       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16  9:22             ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-18 15:35               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17  9:14             ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-07-18 14:36               ` Sean Christopherson

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