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From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Jialin Wang <wjl.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm/vmscan: remove redundant folio_test_swapbacked()
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 04:40:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJpHE0hyaRw8Reig@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG18JnwT1P6W6AwQX0nKDiGTBtObzVXNO7RgO2B-ipnC3D4xGg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 03:21:12AM +0800, Jialin Wang wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 2:53 AM Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is marked as RESEND, but which patch is it a resend of?
> > I can’t find the original one.
> >
> I sent the original one to the wrong mailing list and missed proper cc's, sorry.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250811181839.40336-1-wjl.linux@gmail.com/

Ahh I see. I couldn't find it because it was not sent to linux-mm.
I assumed you sent it a while ago but didn't get any feedback.

> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 02:25:00AM +0800, Jialin Wang wrote:
> > > When !folio_is_file_lru(folio) is false, it implies that
> > > !folio_test_swapbacked(folio) must be true.
> >
> > That is not true.

Oops, I completely misread the message and really sorry for that.

I thought you're saying "anonymous pages are always swapbacked",
(without considering ! in the expression), but you weren't saying that.
Probably I shouldn't have read it so late at night ;) 

> This is the definition of folio_is_file_lru() in
> include/linux/mm_inline.h line 28:
> static inline int folio_is_file_lru(struct folio *folio)
> {
> return !folio_test_swapbacked(folio);
> }

You're right that technically this can be simplified, but I see Miaohe
tried this exactly same simplication a few years ago and it got some
negative feedbacks from people as it makes it harder to read the code.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/87lewqbpad.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com

So maybe not worth it?

> > MADV_FREE pages are anonymous pages that are not swapbacked
> > (and thus can be reclaimed without pageout if they are clean).
> >
> Thanks for the explanation! I'm new to memory management, so this is
> really helpful for me to learn.

You're welcome!

> Best regards,
> Jialin Wang

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11 18:25 [PATCH RESEND] mm/vmscan: remove redundant folio_test_swapbacked() Jialin Wang
2025-08-11 18:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-11 19:21   ` Jialin Wang
2025-08-11 19:40     ` Harry Yoo [this message]

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