From: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
Cc: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Junjie Mao" <junjie.mao@hotmail.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
qemu-rust@nongnu.org, "Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
"Chuanxiao Dong" <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:43:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJsayGjIhHBRuySu@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAjaMXbHOTj1ed=sbkvR=4Uhgk2TyrqaAsXAgZ6uH622cart9w@mail.gmail.com>
> >> > impl AddressSpace {
> >> > pub fn get_flatview(&self, rcu: &'g Guard) -> &'g FlatView {
> >>
> >> IIUC, this lifetime is using the "branded type" pattern as ParentInit.
> >>
> >
> > No, it's much simpler (that one uses the combination of for<'identity> and
> > PhantomData as explained in the comment). It says that the lifetime of the
> > returned reference cannot exceed the guard. It's just like
> >
> > pub fn get_item(&self, array: &'g [u8]) -> &'g u8 {
> > &array[self.0]
> > }
> >
> > Except that the guard is only there to limit the lifetime and not to hold
> > data.
I see. It's clear for me now. Thank you!
> > In addition, about rcu_read_lock_held(), I thought at C side, there're
> >> so many comments are saying "Called within RCU critical section" but
> >> without any check.
> >>
> >> So I wonder whether we should do some check for RCU critical section,
> >> just like bql check via `assert!(bql_locked())`. Maybe we can have a
> >> Rcu debug feature to cover all these checks.
> >>
> >
> > In Rust you would just pass a &RcuGuard into the function (or store it in
> > a struct) for a zero-cost assertion that you are in the RCU critical
> > section.
> >
>
> Agreed. You could put debug_asserts for sanity check for good measure.
Thanks!
Then I see, the most RCU critical part is accessing FlatView through
AddressSpace.
Here, require RCU by function signature (&RcuGuard) is very convenient:
pub fn get_flatview<'g>(&self, rcu: &'g RcuGuard) -> &'g FlatView;
As for the methods of FlatView itself and the lower-level interfaces
(e.g., the write & read detail methods), although RCU critical sections
are also required, there is no need to worry about them because the
upper-level access already ensures RCU lock is held. Of course, it would
be better to add &RcuGuard to some structures and check them with
debug_assert/assert.
Regards,
Zhao
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-12 10:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 12:30 [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 01/26] rust/hpet: Fix the error caused by vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 7:27 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 02/26] rust/cargo: Add the support for vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 03/26] subprojects: Add thiserror-impl crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 04/26] subprojects: Add thiserror crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 05/26] subprojects: Add winapi-i686-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 06/26] subprojects: Add winapi-x86_64-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 07/26] subprojects: Add winapi crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 7:33 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 08/26] subprojects: Add vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 09/26] rust: Add vm-memory in meson Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 10/26] subprojects/vm-memory: Patch vm-memory for QEMU memory backend Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:17 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-08 8:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:51 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 11/26] rust/cargo: Specify the patched vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 12/26] rcu: Make rcu_read_lock & rcu_read_unlock not inline Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:19 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:29 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 13:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09 7:21 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-09 9:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09 9:26 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-12 10:43 ` Zhao Liu [this message]
2025-08-12 10:31 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 14/26] memory: Expose interfaces about Flatview reference count to Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 15/26] memory: Rename address_space_lookup_region and expose it " Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-12 15:39 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 15:42 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 15:12 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 19:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 15:10 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 17/26] memory: Add a translation helper to return MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 18/26] memory: Rename flatview_access_allowed() to memory_region_access_allowed() Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:41 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 19/26] memory: Add MemoryRegionSection based misc helpers Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 20/26] memory: Add wrappers of intermediate steps for read/write Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 21/26] memory: Add store/load interfaces for Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 22/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemoryRegion for MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 23/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemory for FlatView Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 24/26] rust/memory: Provide AddressSpace bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:47 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 25/26] rust/memory: Add binding to check target endian Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:44 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 14:48 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 26/26] rust/hpet: Use safe binding to access address space Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:42 ` [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 14:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:56 ` Zhao Liu
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