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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	tj@kernel.org, void@manifault.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, changwoo@igalia.com, hodgesd@meta.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, jake@hillion.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] sched_ext: Harden scx_bpf_cpu_rq()
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 15:36:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJtDU5ZSDb5hwEan@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9d6f327-3eca-4bf6-a5b1-323749ee44f1@arm.com>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 12:40:39PM +0100, Christian Loehle wrote:
> On 8/12/25 09:00, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 10:21:47PM +0100, Christian Loehle wrote:
> >> scx_bpf_cpu_rq() currently allows accessing struct rq fields without
> >> holding the associated rq.
> >> It is being used by scx_cosmos, scx_flash, scx_lavd, scx_layered, and
> >> scx_tickless. Fortunately it is only ever used to fetch rq->curr.
> >> So provide an alternative scx_bpf_task_acquire_remote_curr() that
> >> doesn't expose struct rq and provide a hardened scx_bpf_cpu_rq_locked()
> >> by ensuring we hold the rq lock.
> >> Add a deprecation warning to scx_bpf_cpu_rq_locked() that mentions the
> >> two alternatives.
> >>
> >> This also simplifies scx code from:
> >>
> >> rq = scx_bpf_cpu_rq(cpu);
> >> if (!rq)
> >> 	return;
> >> p = rq->curr
> >> if (!p)
> >> 	return;
> >> /* ... Do something with p */
> >>
> >> into:
> >>
> >> p = scx_bpf_task_acquire_remote_curr(cpu);
> >> if (!p)
> >> 	return;
> >> /* ... Do something with p */
> >> bpf_task_release(p);
> > 
> > Why do that mandatory refcount dance, rather than directly exposing the
> > RCU-ness of that pointer? IIRC BPF was good with RCU.
> 
> Just because that's how
> bpf_task_from_pid()
> bpf_task_from_vpid()
> already work. I have no strong preference either way.
> Apart from the above just returning
> rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(cpu)->curr);
> is obviously a bit less cumbersome (and yes, RCUs are exposed to BPF,
> for scx most callbacks have that implicit anyway.)
> 
> I'll change it to scx_bpf_remote_curr() that does that in the next
> version, thanks!

Yeah, I suggested Christian to do the refcount dance to be consistent with
bpf_task_from_[v]pid(), but we can probably mark the kfunc as KF_RCU and
rely on RCU locking to save a bit of overhead. So, it's probably better to
follow Peter's suggestion.

Thanks,
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11 21:21 [PATCH v4 0/3] sched_ext: Harden scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Christian Loehle
2025-08-11 21:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] sched_ext: Introduce scx_bpf_cpu_rq_locked() Christian Loehle
2025-08-11 23:38   ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-12  9:07     ` Christian Loehle
2025-08-11 21:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] sched_ext: Provide scx_bpf_task_acquire_remote_curr() Christian Loehle
2025-08-17  4:07   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-11 21:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] sched_ext: deprecation warn for scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Christian Loehle
2025-08-12  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] sched_ext: Harden scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-12 11:40   ` Christian Loehle
2025-08-12 13:36     ` Andrea Righi [this message]
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2025-09-01 13:26 Christian Loehle

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