Re: Git dumb HTTP protocol should work without update-server-info

[Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>]

On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 07:43:20AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 07, 2025 at 03:07:11PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> >> I will also note that the dumb HTTP protocol doesn't work with reftable
> >> and there was some suggestion of removing it for Git 3.0.  It certainly
> >> will not work out of the box with Git 3.0, since the default is
> >> reftable.
> >
> > Yes, indeed. In theory though reftables could also be the solution to
> > the underlying issue: the client can be tought to read the "tables.list"
> > file and then fetch all tables listed therein. The result would be fully
> > consistent, unless any of the tables gets garbage collected. The client
> > would notice and abort the operation, after which it could restart the
> > operation.
> >
> > In that case there would be no need for git-update-server-info(1)
> > anymore. The "tables.list" file sits in a well-known location,
> > identifies all other tables we have to download, and there are no
> > atomicity issues anymore.
> 
> Does tables.list list what pack files there are in the repository?  
> I somehow doubt it.
> 
> The dumb HTTP transport was meant to be able to operate with a truly
> dumb HTTP server, that does not even have to support WebDAV at all,
> so there needs some tables at known name that lists _all_ the files
> the cloners are expected to be able to download from.  We still need
> the output from update-server-info [*] to tell what packs are there
> even if tables.list is stored at the known path.

Oh, you're right. I only remembered that we need it for refs, but of
course we also need it for packs.

Patrick