On Fri, Aug 29, 2025, Rick P Edgecombe wrote: > On Fri, 2025-08-29 at 16:18 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote: > > > + /* > > > + * Note, MR.EXTEND can fail if the S-EPT mapping is somehow removed > > > + * between mapping the pfn and now, but slots_lock prevents memslot > > > + * updates, filemap_invalidate_lock() prevents guest_memfd updates, > > > + * mmu_notifier events can't reach S-EPT entries, and KVM's > > > internal > > > + * zapping flows are mutually exclusive with S-EPT mappings. > > > + */ > > > + for (i = 0; i < PAGE_SIZE; i += TDX_EXTENDMR_CHUNKSIZE) { > > > + err = tdh_mr_extend(&kvm_tdx->td, gpa + i, &entry, > > > &level_state); > > > + if (KVM_BUG_ON(err, kvm)) { > > I suspect tdh_mr_extend() running on one vCPU may contend with > > tdh_vp_create()/tdh_vp_addcx()/tdh_vp_init*()/tdh_vp_rd()/tdh_vp_wr()/ > > tdh_mng_rd()/tdh_vp_flush() on other vCPUs, if userspace invokes ioctl > > KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION on one vCPU while initializing other vCPUs. > > > > It's similar to the analysis of contention of tdh_mem_page_add() [1], as > > both tdh_mr_extend() and tdh_mem_page_add() acquire exclusive lock on > > resource TDR. > > > > I'll try to write a test to verify it and come back to you. > > I'm seeing the same thing in the TDX module. It could fail because of contention > controllable from userspace. So the KVM_BUG_ON() is not appropriate. > > Today though if tdh_mr_extend() fails because of contention then the TD is > essentially dead anyway. Trying to redo KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION will fail. The > M-EPT fault could be spurious but the second tdh_mem_page_add() would return an > error and never get back to the tdh_mr_extend(). > > The version in this patch can't recover for a different reason. That is > kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() doesn't handle spurious faults, so I'd say just > drop the KVM_BUG_ON(), and try to handle the contention in a separate effort. > > I guess the two approaches could be to make KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION more robust, This. First and foremost, KVM's ordering and locking rules need to be explicit (ideally documented, but at the very least apparent in the code), *especially* when the locking (or lack thereof) impacts userspace. Even if effectively relying on the TDX-module to provide ordering "works", it's all but impossible to follow. And it doesn't truly work, as everything in the TDX-Module is a trylock, and that in turn prevents KVM from asserting success. Sometimes KVM has better option than to rely on hardware to detect failure, but it really should be a last resort, because not being able to expect success makes debugging no fun. Even worse, it bleeds hard-to-document, specific ordering requirements into userspace, e.g. in this case, it sounds like userspace can't do _anything_ on vCPUs while doing KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION. Which might not be a burden for userspace, but oof is it nasty from an ABI perspective. > or prevent the contention. For the latter case: > tdh_vp_create()/tdh_vp_addcx()/tdh_vp_init*()/tdh_vp_rd()/tdh_vp_wr() > ...I think we could just take slots_lock during KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU and > KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID. > > For tdh_vp_flush() the vcpu_load() in kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl() could be hard to > handle. > > So I'd think maybe to look towards making KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION more robust, > which would mean the eventual solution wouldn't have ABI concerns by later > blocking things that used to be allowed. > > Maybe having kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() return success for spurious faults is > enough. But this is all for a case that userspace isn't expected to actually > hit, so seems like something that could be kicked down the road easily. You're trying to be too "nice", just smack 'em with a big hammer. For all intents and purposes, the paths in question are fully serialized, there's no reason to try and allow anything remotely interesting to happen. Acquire kvm->lock to prevent VM-wide things from happening, slots_lock to prevent kvm_mmu_zap_all_fast(), and _all_ vCPU mutexes to prevent vCPUs from interefering. Doing that for a vCPU ioctl is a bit awkward, but not awful. E.g. we can abuse kvm_arch_vcpu_async_ioctl(). In hindsight, a more clever approach would have been to make KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION a VM-scoped ioctl that takes a vCPU fd. Oh well. Anyways, I think we need to avoid the "synchronous" ioctl path anyways, because taking kvm->slots_lock inside vcpu->mutex is gross. AFAICT it's not actively problematic today, but it feels like a deadlock waiting to happen. The other oddity I see is the handling of kvm_tdx->state. I don't see how this check in tdx_vcpu_create() is safe: if (kvm_tdx->state != TD_STATE_INITIALIZED) return -EIO; kvm_arch_vcpu_create() runs without any locks held, and so TDX effectively has the same bug that SEV intra-host migration had, where an in-flight vCPU creation could race with a VM-wide state transition (see commit ecf371f8b02d ("KVM: SVM: Reject SEV{-ES} intra host migration if vCPU creation is in-flight"). To fix that, kvm->lock needs to be taken and KVM needs to verify there's no in-flight vCPU creation, e.g. so that a vCPU doesn't pop up and contend a TDX-Module lock. We an even define a fancy new CLASS to handle the lock+check => unlock logic with guard()-like syntax: CLASS(tdx_vm_state_guard, guard)(kvm); if (IS_ERR(guard)) return PTR_ERR(guard); IIUC, with all of those locks, KVM can KVM_BUG_ON() both TDH_MEM_PAGE_ADD and TDH_MR_EXTEND, with no exceptions given for -EBUSY. Attached patches are very lightly tested as usual and need to be chunked up, but seem do to what I want.