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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] NFSD: fix misaligned DIO READ to not use a start_extra_page, exposes rpcrdma bug?
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 17:27:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLdhL7xFxR-r7H_m@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18b20826-3c9f-4763-b0ac-c7f1dc2be4d4@oracle.com>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 05:16:10PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 9/2/25 5:06 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> On 9/2/25 11:56 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>> On 8/30/25 1:38 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >>
> >>>> dt (j:1 t:1): File System Information:
> >>>> dt (j:1 t:1):            Mounted from device: 192.168.0.105:/hs_test
> >>>> dt (j:1 t:1):           Mounted on directory: /mnt/hs_test
> >>>> dt (j:1 t:1):                Filesystem type: nfs4
> >>>> dt (j:1 t:1):             Filesystem options: rw,relatime,vers=4.2,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,fatal_neterrors=none,proto=tcp,nconnect=16,port=20491,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.106,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.105
> >>>
> >>> I haven't been able to reproduce a similar failure in my lab with
> >>> NFSv4.2 over RDMA with FDR InfiniBand. I've run dt 6-7 times, all
> >>> successful. Also, for shit giggles, I tried the fsx-based subtests in
> >>> fstests, no new failures there either. The export is xfs on an NVMe
> >>> add-on card; server uses direct I/O for READ and page cache for WRITE.
> >>>
> >>> Notice the mount options for your test run: "proto=tcp" and
> >>> "nconnect=16". Even if your network fabric is RoCE, "proto=tcp" will
> >>> not use RDMA at all; it will use bog standard TCP/IP on your ultra
> >>> fast Ethernet network.
> >>>
> >>> What should I try next? I can apply 2/2 or add "nconnect" or move the
> >>> testing to my RoCE fabric after lunch and keep poking at it.
> > 
> > Hmm, I'll have to check with the Hammerspace performance team to
> > understand how RDMA used if the client mount has proto=tcp.
> > 
> > Certainly surprising, thanks for noticing/reporting this aspect.
> > 
> > I also cannot reproduce on a normal tcp mount and testbed.  This
> > frankenbeast of a fast "RDMA" network that is misconfigured to use
> > proto=tcp is the only testbed where I've seen this dt data mismatch.
> > 
> >>> Or, I could switch to TCP. Suggestions welcome.
> >>
> >> The client is not sending any READ procedures/operations to the server.
> >> The following is NFSv3 for clarity, but NFSv4.x results are similar:
> >>
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.634816: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7b2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=NULL
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635389: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7d2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSINFO
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635420: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7e2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=PATHCONF
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635451: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x7f2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635486: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x802a6274 service=nfsacl vers=3 proc=NULL
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635558: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x812a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSINFO
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1466.635585: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x822a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.029208: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x832a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=ACCESS
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.029255: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x842a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=LOOKUP
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.029296: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x852a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSSTAT
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.039715: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x862a6274 service=nfsacl vers=3 proc=GETACL
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.039758: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x872a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=CREATE
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.040091: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x882a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=WRITE
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.040469: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x892a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=GETATTR
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.040503: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8a2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=ACCESS
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.041867: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8b2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=FSSTAT
> >>             nfsd-1669  [003]  1470.042109: svc_process:
> >> addr=192.168.2.67 xid=0x8c2a6274 service=nfsd vers=3 proc=REMOVE
> >>
> >> So I'm probably missing some setting on the reproducer/client.
> >>
> >> /mnt from klimt.ib.1015granger.net:/export/fast
> >>  Flags:	rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,
> >>   fatal_neterrors=none,proto=rdma,port=20049,timeo=600,retrans=2,
> >>   sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.2.55,mountvers=3,mountproto=tcp,
> >>   local_lock=none,addr=192.168.2.55
> >>
> >> Linux morisot.1015granger.net 6.15.10-100.fc41.x86_64 #1 SMP
> >>  PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 15 14:55:12 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > If you're using LOCALIO (client on server) that'd explain your not
> > seeing any READs coming over the wire to NFSD.
> > 
> > I've made sure to disable LOCALIO on my client, with:
> > echo N > /sys/module/nfs/parameters/localio_enabled
> 
> I am testing with a physically separate client and server, so I believe
> that LOCALIO is not in play. I do see WRITEs. And other workloads (in
> particular "fsx -Z <fname>") show READ traffic and I'm getting the
> new trace point to fire quite a bit, and it is showing misaligned
> READ requests. So it has something to do with dt.

OK, yeah I figured you weren't doing loopback mount, only thing that
came to mind for you not seeing READ like expected.  I haven't had any
problems with dt not driving READs to NFSD...

You'll certainly need to see READs in order for NFSD's new misaligned
DIO READ handling to get tested.

> If I understand your two patches correctly, they are still pulling a
> page from the end of rq_pages to do the initial pad page. That, I
> think, is a working implementation, not the failing one.

Patch 1 removes the use of a separate page, instead using the very
first page of rq_pages for the "start_extra" (or "front_pad) page for
the misaligned DIO READ.  And with that my dt testing fails with data
mismatch like I shared. So patch 1 is failing implementation (for me
on the "RDMA" system I'm testing on).

Patch 2 then switches to using a rq_pages page _after_ the memory that
would normally get used as the READ payload memory to service the
READ. So patch 2 is a working implementation.

> EOD -- will continue tomorrow.

Ack.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-02 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26 18:57 [PATCH v8 0/7] NFSD: add "NFSD DIRECT" and "NFSD DONTCACHE" IO modes Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] NFSD: add io_cache_read controls to debugfs interface Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 14:38   ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-03 15:07     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 16:02       ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-03 16:12         ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-03 16:50           ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] NFSD: add io_cache_write " Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-27 19:41     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-27 20:56       ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-27 23:15         ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28  1:57           ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-28  8:09             ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28 14:53               ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-28 18:52                 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 17:38                   ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] some progress on rpcrdma bug [was: Re: [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned] Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 17:38                     ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] NFSD: fix misaligned DIO READ to not use a start_extra_page, exposes rpcrdma bug? Mike Snitzer
2025-09-02 14:04                       ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 15:56                       ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 17:59                         ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 21:06                           ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-02 21:16                             ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-02 21:27                               ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-09-02 22:18                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 19:07                                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 21:00                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 14:42                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 15:12                                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 16:10                                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-04 16:33                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-04 17:54                                       ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-30 17:38                     ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] NFSD: use /end/ of rq_pages for front_pad page, simpler workaround for rpcrdma bug Mike Snitzer
2025-08-30 18:53                     ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] some progress on rpcrdma bug [was: Re: [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned] Mike Snitzer
2025-08-28 16:36               ` [PATCH v8 5/7] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Jeff Layton
2025-08-28 16:22       ` Jeff Layton
2025-08-28 16:27         ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] NFSD: issue WRITEs " Mike Snitzer
2025-08-26 18:57 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] NFSD: add nfsd_analyze_read_dio and nfsd_analyze_write_dio trace events Mike Snitzer

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