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From: Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	"D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Sidraya Jayagond <sidraya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mahanta Jambigi <mjambigi@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Wen Gu <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] net/smc: make wr buffer count configurable
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 22:51:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLr4-V8V1ZWGMrOj@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLryOL-fahUINVg0@linux.alibaba.com>

On 2025-09-05 22:22:48, Dust Li wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 14:01:35, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:00:59 +0200
>>Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > 1. What if the two sides have different max_send_wr/max_recv_wr configurations?
>>> > IIUC, For example, if the client sets max_send_wr to 64, but the server sets
>>> > max_recv_wr to 16, the client might overflow the server's QP receive
>>> > queue, potentially causing an RNR (Receiver Not Ready) error.  
>>>
>>> I don't think the 16 is spec-ed anywhere and if the client and the server
>>> need to agree on the same value it should either be speced, or a
>>> protocol mechanism for negotiating it needs to exist. So what is your
>>> take on this as an SMC maintainer?
>
>Right — I didn't realize that either until I saw this patch today :)
>But since the implementation's been set to 16 since day one, bumping it
>up might break things.
>
>>>
>>> I think, we have tested heterogeneous setups and didn't see any grave
>>> issues. But let me please do a follow up on this. Maybe the other
>>> maintainers can chime in as well.
>
>I'm glad to hear from others.
>
>>
>>Did some research and some thinking. Are you concerned about a
>>performance regression for e.g. 64 -> 16 compared to 16 -> 16? According
>>to my current understanding the RNR must not lead to a catastrophic
>>failure, but the RDMA/IB stack is supposed to handle that.
>
>No, it's not just a performance regression.
>If we get an RNR when going from 64 -> 16, the whole link group gets
>torn down — and all SMC connections inside it break.
>So from the user’s point of view, connections will just randomly drop
>out of nowhere.

I double-checked the code and noticed we set qp_attr.rnr_retry =
SMC_QP_RNR_RETRY = 7, which means "infinite retries."
So the QP will just keep retrying — we won't actually get an RNR.
That said, yeah, just performance regression.

So in this case, I would regard it as acceptable. We can go with this.

Best regards,
Dust


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 21:12 [PATCH net-next 0/2] net/smc: make wr buffer count configurable Halil Pasic
2025-09-04 21:12 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] " Halil Pasic
2025-09-05  3:45   ` Dust Li
2025-09-05  9:00     ` Halil Pasic
2025-09-05 12:01       ` Halil Pasic
2025-09-05 14:12         ` Mahanta Jambigi
2025-09-05 14:22         ` Dust Li
2025-09-05 14:51           ` Dust Li [this message]
2025-09-05 21:05             ` Halil Pasic
2025-09-06 18:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-04 21:12 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net/smc: handle -ENOMEM from smc_wr_alloc_link_mem gracefully Halil Pasic

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