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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
Cc: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 19:16:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMC1OcH3E01w6LWD@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250909190525.7214-4-cel@kernel.org>

On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 03:05:25PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
> 
> Add an experimental option that forces NFS READ operations to use
> direct I/O instead of reading through the NFS server's page cache.
> 
> There are already other layers of caching:
>  - The page cache on NFS clients
>  - The block device underlying the exported file system
> 
> The server's page cache, in many cases, is unlikely to provide
> additional benefit. Some benchmarks have demonstrated that the
> server's page cache is actively detrimental for workloads whose
> working set is larger than the server's available physical memory.
> 
> For instance, on small NFS servers, cached NFS file content can
> squeeze out local memory consumers. For large sequential workloads,
> an enormous amount of data flows into and out of the page cache
> and is consumed by NFS clients exactly once -- caching that data
> is expensive to do and totally valueless.
> 
> For now this is a hidden option that can be enabled on test
> systems for benchmarking. In the longer term, this option might
> be enabled persistently or per-export. When the exported file
> system does not support direct I/O, NFSD falls back to using
> either DONTCACHE or buffered I/O to fulfill NFS READ requests.
> 
> Suggested-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>

Reviewed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 19:05 [PATCH v1 0/3] NFSD direct I/O read Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:07   ` NeilBrown
2025-09-09 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:20   ` NeilBrown
2025-09-09 19:05 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:16   ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-09-09 23:37   ` NeilBrown
2025-09-09 23:39     ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:48       ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-10  1:54         ` NeilBrown
2025-09-10  1:52       ` NeilBrown
2025-09-10 14:23         ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:56     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-10 11:37   ` Jeff Layton
2025-09-09 23:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] NFSD: continuation of NFSD DIRECT Mike Snitzer
2025-09-09 23:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] sunrpc: add an extra reserve page to svc_serv_maxpages() Mike Snitzer
2025-09-10 14:29     ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-09 23:33   ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS WRITE Mike Snitzer
2025-10-08 18:59     ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2025-10-09 15:04       ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-09 17:46       ` Chuck Lever
2025-10-13 15:41         ` Mike Snitzer
2025-10-11 11:57       ` kernel test robot

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