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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicolas Geoffray <ngeoffray@google.com>,
	Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] anon_vma root lock contention and per anon_vma lock
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 00:53:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMdVcH7KCXBvLtFP@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x=YsQR=nNcHA-q=0vg0b7ok=81C_qQqKmoJ+BZ+HVduQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 07:17:01PM +1200, Barry Song wrote:
> In the process tree, many processes may share anon_vma->root, even if
> they don’t share the anon_vma itself. This causes serious lock contention
> between memory reclamation (which calls folio_referenced and try_to_unmap)
> and other processes calling fork(), exit(), mprotect(), etc.
> 
> On Android, this issue becomes more severe since many processes are
> descendants of zygote.

I'm not nearly as familiar with anon_vma as, well, the rest of you
are.  As I understand this situation, usually after fork(), a process
calls exec() and the VMAs evaporate.  Android is different in that after
the zygotecalls fork(), there is no exec() and so the VMAs stay COW.

I wonder if we could fix this by adding a new syscall:

	mremap(addr, size, size, MREMAP_COW_NOW);

That would create a new VMA that contains the COWed pages from the
old VMA, but crucially no longer attached to the anon_vma root of
the zygote.  You wouldn't want to call this for every VMA, of course.
Just the ones which are likely to be fully COWed.

Maybe this isn't practical, but I thought it worth suggesting.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-14 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-11  7:17 [DISCUSSION] anon_vma root lock contention and per anon_vma lock Barry Song
2025-09-11  8:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-11  8:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11  9:18   ` Barry Song
2025-09-11 10:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11  8:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-11 18:22   ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12  4:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-12 11:37       ` Jann Horn
2025-09-12 11:56         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-14 23:53 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-09-15  0:23   ` Barry Song
2025-09-15  1:47     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15  8:41       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  2:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-15  5:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15  9:42         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:29           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:56             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  9:22       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15 10:41         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-15 10:51           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-15  8:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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