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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
Cc: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 19:31:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNMt3-4kgpiE_ZlQ@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19eef754-57d9-4fe4-a6e6-a481dcec470e@kernel.org>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 06:49:35PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 9/23/25 3:26 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 10:11:37AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
> >>
> >> Add an experimental option that forces NFS READ operations to use
> >> direct I/O instead of reading through the NFS server's page cache.
> >>
> >> There are already other layers of caching:
> >>  - The page cache on NFS clients
> >>  - The block device underlying the exported file system
> >>
> >> The server's page cache, in many cases, is unlikely to provide
> >> additional benefit. Some benchmarks have demonstrated that the
> >> server's page cache is actively detrimental for workloads whose
> >> working set is larger than the server's available physical memory.
> >>
> >> For instance, on small NFS servers, cached NFS file content can
> >> squeeze out local memory consumers. For large sequential workloads,
> >> an enormous amount of data flows into and out of the page cache
> >> and is consumed by NFS clients exactly once -- caching that data
> >> is expensive to do and totally valueless.
> >>
> >> For now this is a hidden option that can be enabled on test
> >> systems for benchmarking. In the longer term, this option might
> >> be enabled persistently or per-export. When the exported file
> >> system does not support direct I/O, NFSD falls back to using
> >> either DONTCACHE or buffered I/O to fulfill NFS READ requests.
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> >> Reviewed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> >> Reviewed-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
> >> ---
> >>  fs/nfsd/debugfs.c |  2 ++
> >>  fs/nfsd/nfsd.h    |  1 +
> >>  fs/nfsd/trace.h   |  1 +
> >>  fs/nfsd/vfs.c     | 82 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  4 files changed, 86 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/debugfs.c b/fs/nfsd/debugfs.c
> >> index ed2b9e066206..00eb1ecef6ac 100644
> >> --- a/fs/nfsd/debugfs.c
> >> +++ b/fs/nfsd/debugfs.c
> >> @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(nfsd_dsr_fops, nfsd_dsr_get, nfsd_dsr_set, "%llu\n");
> >>   * Contents:
> >>   *   %0: NFS READ will use buffered IO
> >>   *   %1: NFS READ will use dontcache (buffered IO w/ dropbehind)
> >> + *   %2: NFS READ will use direct IO
> >>   *
> >>   * This setting takes immediate effect for all NFS versions,
> >>   * all exports, and in all NFSD net namespaces.
> >> @@ -64,6 +65,7 @@ static int nfsd_io_cache_read_set(void *data, u64 val)
> >>  		nfsd_io_cache_read = NFSD_IO_BUFFERED;
> >>  		break;
> >>  	case NFSD_IO_DONTCACHE:
> >> +	case NFSD_IO_DIRECT:
> >>  		/*
> >>  		 * Must disable splice_read when enabling
> >>  		 * NFSD_IO_DONTCACHE.
> >> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/nfsd.h b/fs/nfsd/nfsd.h
> >> index ea87b42894dd..bdb60ee1f1a4 100644
> >> --- a/fs/nfsd/nfsd.h
> >> +++ b/fs/nfsd/nfsd.h
> >> @@ -157,6 +157,7 @@ enum {
> >>  	/* Any new NFSD_IO enum value must be added at the end */
> >>  	NFSD_IO_BUFFERED,
> >>  	NFSD_IO_DONTCACHE,
> >> +	NFSD_IO_DIRECT,
> >>  };
> >>  
> >>  extern u64 nfsd_io_cache_read __read_mostly;
> >> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/trace.h b/fs/nfsd/trace.h
> >> index 6e2c8e2aab10..bfd41236aff2 100644
> >> --- a/fs/nfsd/trace.h
> >> +++ b/fs/nfsd/trace.h
> >> @@ -464,6 +464,7 @@ DEFINE_EVENT(nfsd_io_class, nfsd_##name,	\
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_start);
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_splice);
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_vector);
> >> +DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_direct);
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_io_done);
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(read_done);
> >>  DEFINE_NFSD_IO_EVENT(write_start);
> >> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >> index 35880d3f1326..ddcd812f0761 100644
> >> --- a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >> +++ b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >> @@ -1074,6 +1074,82 @@ __be32 nfsd_splice_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
> >>  	return nfsd_finish_read(rqstp, fhp, file, offset, count, eof, host_err);
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> +/*
> >> + * The byte range of the client's READ request is expanded on both
> >> + * ends until it meets the underlying file system's direct I/O
> >> + * alignment requirements. After the internal read is complete, the
> >> + * byte range of the NFS READ payload is reduced to the byte range
> >> + * that was originally requested.
> >> + *
> >> + * Note that a direct read can be done only when the xdr_buf
> >> + * containing the NFS READ reply does not already have contents in
> >> + * its .pages array. This is due to potentially restrictive
> >> + * alignment requirements on the read buffer. When .page_len and
> >> + * @base are zero, the .pages array is guaranteed to be page-
> >> + * aligned.
> >> + */
> > 
> > So this ^ comment (and the related conversation with Neil in a
> > different thread) says page_len should be 0 on entry to
> > nfsd_direct_read.
> > 
> >> @@ -1106,6 +1182,12 @@ __be32 nfsd_iter_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
> >>  	switch (nfsd_io_cache_read) {
> >>  	case NFSD_IO_BUFFERED:
> >>  		break;
> >> +	case NFSD_IO_DIRECT:
> >> +		if (nf->nf_dio_read_offset_align &&
> >> +		    rqstp->rq_res.page_len && !base)
> >> +			return nfsd_direct_read(rqstp, fhp, nf, offset,
> >> +						count, eof);
> >> +		fallthrough;
> > 
> > Yet the nfsd_iter_read is only calling nfsd_direct_read() if
> > rqstp->rq_res.page_len is not zero, shouldn't it be
> > !rqstp->rq_res.page_len ?
> 
> Oops, yes. I did this work last week, while out of range of my lab.

Sure.

> 
> > (testing confirms it should be !rqstp->rq_res.page_len)
> > 
> > Hopefully with this fix you can have more confidence in staging this
> > in your nfsd-testing?
> I'm waiting only for Neil to send an R-b.

OK, makes sense.  For some reaosn I thought you had that for patch 3.

Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-22 14:11 [PATCH v3 0/3] NFSD direct I/O read Chuck Lever
2025-09-22 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Chuck Lever
2025-09-24 14:00   ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-22 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Chuck Lever
2025-09-22 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ Chuck Lever
2025-09-23 22:26   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-23 22:49     ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-23 23:31       ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-09-23 23:48       ` NeilBrown
2025-09-23 23:52         ` Chuck Lever
2025-09-24  7:30           ` NeilBrown
2025-09-24 14:12             ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-24 15:18               ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-24 18:56                 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ (v3 and older) [Was: "Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ"] Mike Snitzer
2025-09-25  2:56                   ` Jonathan Flynn
2025-09-25 13:13                     ` Jonathan Flynn
2025-09-26  0:18               ` [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Implement NFSD_IO_DIRECT for NFS READ NeilBrown
2025-09-26  1:30                 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-09-24 18:56             ` Chuck Lever

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