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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: tj@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] sched: Employ sched_change guards
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 08:58:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOYLfSfePpgL4gMQ@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251008065103.GQ4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 08:51:03AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 10:20:44AM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 06, 2025 at 12:44:03PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > As proposed a long while ago -- and half done by scx -- wrap the
> > > scheduler's 'change' pattern in a guard helper.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > Acked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > ...
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> > > @@ -3885,23 +3885,22 @@ extern void check_class_changed(struct r
> > >  extern struct balance_callback *splice_balance_callbacks(struct rq *rq);
> > >  extern void balance_callbacks(struct rq *rq, struct balance_callback *head);
> > >  
> > > -#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CLASS_EXT
> > > -/*
> > > - * Used by SCX in the enable/disable paths to move tasks between sched_classes
> > > - * and establish invariants.
> > > - */
> > > -struct sched_enq_and_set_ctx {
> > 
> > Not necessarily for this patch, we can add it later, but I kinda liked the
> > comment that briefly explained how the context is used. Maybe having
> > something along these lines could be helpful?
> 
> I have changed it thus:
> 
> 
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -3885,6 +3885,22 @@ extern void check_class_changed(struct r
>  extern struct balance_callback *splice_balance_callbacks(struct rq *rq);
>  extern void balance_callbacks(struct rq *rq, struct balance_callback *head);
>  
> +/*
> + * The 'sched_change' pattern is the safe, easy and slow way of changing a
> + * task's scheduling properties. It dequeues a task, such that the scheduler
> + * is fully unaware of it; at which point its properties can be modified;
> + * after which it is enqueued again.
> + *
> + * Typically this must be called while holding task_rq_lock, since most/all
> + * properties are serialized under those locks. There is currently one
> + * exception to this rule in sched/ext which only holds rq->lock.
> + */
> +
> +/*
> + * This structure is a temporary, used to preserve/convey the queueing state
> + * of the task between sched_change_begin() and sched_change_end(). Ensuring
> + * the task's queueing state is idempotent across the operation.
> + */

Looks great and very clear, thanks!

-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-06 10:44 [PATCH 00/12] sched: Cleanup the change-pattern and related locking Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 01/12] sched: Employ sched_change guards Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07  8:20   ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-08  6:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08  6:58       ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2025-10-07 16:58   ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-08 14:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 02/12] sched: Re-arrange the {EN,DE}QUEUE flags Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 03/12] sched: Fold sched_class::switch{ing,ed}_{to,from}() into the change pattern Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 13:30   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-10-09 13:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 14:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 16:50         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-10-13 10:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33         ` [tip: sched/core] sched/deadline: Prepare for switched_from() change tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Fold sched_class::switch{ing,ed}_{to,from}() into the change pattern tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 04/12] sched: Cleanup sched_delayed handling for class switches Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07 15:22   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 05/12] sched: Move sched_class::prio_changed() into the change pattern Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 20:44   ` [PATCH 05/12] " Pierre Gondois
2026-01-13  4:12     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-13 10:45       ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-13 11:05         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-13 11:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-13 11:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-13 13:07               ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-13 13:10               ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-15 21:01               ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/deadline: Avoid double update_rq_clock() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-13 11:47         ` [PATCH 05/12] sched: Move sched_class::prio_changed() into the change pattern Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-14  6:47           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-14 10:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-14 13:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-14 14:04                 ` luca abeni
2026-01-14 14:20                 ` Juri Lelli
2026-01-14 15:25                   ` luca abeni
2026-01-15  8:24                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-15  9:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-15 13:13                       ` Pierre Gondois
2026-01-15 13:56                         ` Juri Lelli
2026-01-15 21:00                 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/deadline: Use ENQUEUE_MOVE to allow priority change tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-15 21:00                 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched: Deadline has dynamic priority tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-15 21:01                 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched: Audit MOVE vs balance_callbacks tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-15 21:01                 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched: Fold rq-pin swizzle into __balance_callbacks() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 06/12] sched: Fix migrate_disable_switch() locking Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 07/12] sched: Fix do_set_cpus_allowed() locking Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-24 14:58   ` [REGRESSION] Deadlock during CPU hotplug caused by abfc01077df6 Jan Polensky
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 08/12] sched: Rename do_set_cpus_allowed() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 09/12] sched: Make __do_set_cpus_allowed() use the sched_change pattern Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 10/12] sched: Add locking comments to sched_class methods Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07  9:54   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-08  7:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08  7:33       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-08  9:43         ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-08 10:06           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-08 14:34             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 11/12] sched: Match __task_rq_{,un}lock() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07 20:44   ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:44 ` [PATCH 12/12] sched: Cleanup the sched_change NOCLOCK usage Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07  8:25 ` [PATCH 00/12] sched: Cleanup the change-pattern and related locking Andrea Righi
2025-10-07  9:55 ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-07 15:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-07 20:46 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-08 13:54 ` Valentin Schneider

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