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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	graf@amazon.com, jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	masahiroy@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org, pratyush@kernel.org,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, tj@kernel.org, jasonmiu@google.com,
	dmatlack@google.com, skhawaja@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/10] liveupdate: Rework KHO for in-kernel users & Fix memory corruption
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:12:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPZ7qa-Gs4OPLhsT@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bDMc8RdcNq_qmmW02DNzLePxQNWBgdOuwrfJ=jmr0YK8w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 09:46:17AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 4:34 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 01:17:46PM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > > This series addresses comments and combines into one the two
> > > series [1] and [2], and adds review-bys.
> > >
> > > This series refactors the KHO framework to better support in-kernel
> > > users like the upcoming LUO. The current design, which relies on a
> > > notifier chain and debugfs for control, is too restrictive for direct
> > > programmatic use.
> > >
> > > The core of this rework is the removal of the notifier chain in favor of
> > > a direct registration API. This decouples clients from the shutdown-time
> > > finalization sequence, allowing them to manage their preserved state
> > > more flexibly and at any time.
> > >
> > > Also, this series fixes a memory corruption bug in KHO that occurs when
> > > KFENCE is enabled.
> > >
> > > The root cause is that KHO metadata, allocated via kzalloc(), can be
> > > randomly serviced by kfence_alloc(). When a kernel boots via KHO, the
> > > early memblock allocator is restricted to a "scratch area". This forces
> > > the KFENCE pool to be allocated within this scratch area, creating a
> > > conflict. If KHO metadata is subsequently placed in this pool, it gets
> > > corrupted during the next kexec operation.
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251007033100.836886-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
> > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251015053121.3978358-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
> > >
> > > Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) (1):
> > >   kho: drop notifiers
> > >
> > > Pasha Tatashin (9):
> > >   kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel
> > >   kho: make debugfs interface optional
> > >   kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and page ranes
> > >   kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort
> > >   liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate
> > >   kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate
> > >   liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory in scratch area
> > >   liveupdate: kho: Increase metadata bitmap size to PAGE_SIZE
> > >   liveupdate: kho: allocate metadata directly from the buddy allocator
> >
> > The fixes should go before the preparation for LUO or even better as a
> > separate series.
> >
> > I've reread the LUO preparation patches and I don't think they are useful
> > on their own. They introduce a couple of unused interfaces and I think it's
> > better to have them along with the rest of LUO patches.
> 
> Pulling them out to apply fixes separately feels counterproductive,
> especially since we agreed to add the new kexec_handover_debug.c file.
> The most straightforward path is to build on what's already in -next.
> Let's stick with the current approach.

The fixes are 6.18 material, the LUO preparation is 6.19 material.
 
> Thanks,
> Pasha
> 
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely yours,
> > Mike.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-18 17:17 [PATCH v6 00/10] liveupdate: Rework KHO for in-kernel users & Fix memory corruption Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20  7:43   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-21 16:08     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and page ranes Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory in scratch area Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20  7:56   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-20 21:56     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] liveupdate: kho: Increase metadata bitmap size to PAGE_SIZE Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20  8:03   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-20 22:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-18 17:17 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] liveupdate: kho: allocate metadata directly from the buddy allocator Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20  8:05   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-20 22:17     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20  8:34 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] liveupdate: Rework KHO for in-kernel users & Fix memory corruption Mike Rapoport
2025-10-20 13:46   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20 13:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-20 18:12     ` Mike Rapoport [this message]

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