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From: Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	<ast@kernel.org>, <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	<aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>, <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	<toke@redhat.com>, <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	<syzbot+ff145014d6b0ce64a173@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
	Octavian Purdila <tavip@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf 1/2] xdp: introduce xdp_convert_skb_to_buff()
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:26:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQH5+ojHJ1V9jfk8@boxer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251028185314.1ad62578@kernel.org>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:53:14PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 09:08:52 +0100 Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > +	xdp->rxq->mem.type = page_pool_page_is_pp(virt_to_head_page(xdp->data)) ?
> > > +				MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL : MEM_TYPE_PAGE_SHARED;  
> > 
> > We are slowly killing performance with these paper cuts.  The
> > information we are looking for should be available via skb->pp_recycle,
> > but instead we go lookup the page to deref that memory.  And plus the
> > virt_to_head_page() is more expensive than virt_to_page().
> > 
> > Why don't we check skb->pp_recycle first, and then fall-back to checking
> > the page to catch the mentioned problems?

Hi Jesper, Jakub,

we started with pp_recycle so if we now have agreement regarding its usage
here let me send another revision. My assumption was that generic XDP was
not that performance-sensitive for us, however this helper is going to be
used within {dev,cpu}map, so I agree with your concerns now.

> 
> I still think _all_ frags which may end up here are from the per CPU PP
> since we CoW the skbs. So:

Agree!

> 
> 	DEBUG_NET_WARN_ON_ONCE(!skb->pp_recycle);
> 	xdp->rxq->mem.type = MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL;

This has to be conditional as it is fine to use this helper for
MEM_TYPE_PAGE_SHARED, plus the mem type has to be updated per packet.

> 
> ? It is legal to have pp and non-pp frags in a single skb AFAIK.

Ok, but not in this case where data origins from CoW path.

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-29 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 12:13 [PATCH v4 bpf 0/2] xdp: fix page_pool leaks Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-27 12:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 1/2] xdp: introduce xdp_convert_skb_to_buff() Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-27 14:31   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-10-28  8:08   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-29  1:53     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-29 11:26       ` Maciej Fijalkowski [this message]
2025-10-29 23:12         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-27 12:13 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 2/2] veth: update mem type in xdp_buff Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-10-27 14:31   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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