From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Cc: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Benjamin Gray <bgray@linux.ibm.com>,
Caleb Biggers <caleb.biggers@intel.com>,
Edward Baker <edward.baker@intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
Jing Zhang <renyu.zj@linux.alibaba.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>,
Perry Taylor <perry.taylor@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Samantha Alt <samantha.alt@intel.com>,
Thomas Falcon <thomas.falcon@intel.com>,
Weilin Wang <weilin.wang@intel.com>, Xu Yang <xu.yang_2@nxp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/52] AMD, ARM, Intel metric generation with Python
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 13:10:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aR-DycrAgXbQ3dJp@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113032040.1994090-1-irogers@google.com>
Hello Sandipan and Ravi,
On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 07:19:48PM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> Metrics in the perf tool come in via json. Json doesn't allow
> comments, line breaks, etc. making it an inconvenient way to write
> metrics. Further, it is useful to detect when writing a metric that
> the event specified is supported within the event json for a
> model. From the metric python code Event(s) are used, with fallback
> events provided, if no event is found then an exception is thrown and
> that can either indicate a failure or an unsupported model. To avoid
> confusion all the metrics and their metricgroups are prefixed with
> 'lpm_', where LPM is an abbreviation of Linux Perf Metric. While extra
> characters aren't ideal, this separates the metrics from other vendor
> provided metrics.
>
> * The first 14 patches introduce infrastructure and fixes for the
> addition of metrics written in python for Arm64, AMD Zen and Intel
> CPUs. The ilist.py and perf python module are fixed to work better
> with metrics on hybrid architectures.
>
> * The next 13 patches generate additional metrics for AMD zen. Rapl
> and Idle metrics aren't specific to AMD but are placed here for ease
> and convenience. Uncore L3 metrics are added along with the majority
> of core metrics.
Any opinion on these new metrics? I'd like to have them unless you have
objections. Please let me know if there are concerns.
Thanks,
Namhyung
>
> * The next 20 patches add additional metrics for Intel. Rapl and Idle
> metrics aren't specific to Intel but are placed here for ease and
> convenience. Smi and tsx metrics are added so they can be dropped
> from the per model json files. There are four uncore sets of metrics
> and eleven core metrics. Add a CheckPmu function to metric to
> simplify detecting the presence of hybrid PMUs in events. Metrics
> with experimental events are flagged as experimental in their
> description.
>
> * The next 2 patches add additional metrics for Arm64, where the
> topdown set decomposes yet further. The metrcs primarily use json
> events, where the json contains architecture standard events. Not
> all events are in the json, such as for a53 where the events are in
> sysfs. Workaround this by adding the sysfs events to the metrics but
> longer-term such events should be added to the json.
>
> * The final patch validates that all events provided to an Event
> object exist in a json file somewhere. This is to avoid mistakes
> like unfortunate typos.
>
> This series has benefitted from the input of Leo Yan
> <leo.yan@arm.com>, Sandipan Das <sandidas@amd.com>, Thomas Falcon
> <thomas.falcon@intel.com> and Perry Taylor <perry.taylor@intel.com>.
>
> v8. Combine the previous 4 series for clarity. Rebase on top of the
> more recent legacy metric and event changes. Make the python more
> pep8 and pylint compliant.
>
> Foundations:
> v6. Fix issue with '\-' escape not being '\\-' (reported-by Sandipan
> Das <sandidas@amd.com>) which didn't alter the generated json.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250904043208.995243-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v5. Rebase on top of legacy hardware/cache changes that now generate
> events using python:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250828205930.4007284-1-irogers@google.com/
> the v5 series is:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250829030727.4159703-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v4. Rebase and small Build/Makefile tweak
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240926173554.404411-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v3. Some code tidying, make the input directory a command line
> argument, but no other functional or output changes.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240314055051.1960527-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v2. Fixes two type issues in the python code but no functional or
> output changes.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240302005950.2847058-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v1. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240302005950.2847058-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> AMD:
> v6. Fix issue with '\-' escape not being '\\-' (reported-by Sandipan
> Das <sandidas@amd.com>) which didn't alter the generated json.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250904044047.999031-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v5. Rebase. Add uop cache hit/miss rates patch. Prefix all metric
> names with lpm_ (short for Linux Perf Metric) so that python
> generated metrics are clearly namespaced.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250829033138.4166591-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v4. Rebase.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240926174101.406874-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v3. Some minor code cleanup changes.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240314055839.1975063-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v2. Drop the cycles breakdown in favor of having it as a common
> metric, suggested by Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240301184737.2660108-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v1. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001537.4158049-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> Intel:
> v6. Fix issue with '\-' escape not being '\\-' (reported-by Sandipan
> Das <sandidas@amd.com>) which didn't alter the generated json.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250904044653.1002362-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v5. Rebase. Fix description for smi metric (Kan). Prefix all metric
> names with lpm_ (short for Linux Perf Metric) so that python
> generated metrics are clearly namespaced. Kan requested a
> namespace in his review:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/43548903-b7c8-47c4-b1da-0258293ecbd4@linux.intel.com/
> The v5 series is:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250829041104.4186320-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v4. Experimental metric descriptions. Add mesh bandwidth metric. Rebase.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240926175035.408668-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v3. Swap tsx and CheckPMU patches that were in the wrong order. Some
> minor code cleanup changes. Drop reference to merged fix for
> umasks/occ_sel in PCU events and for cstate metrics.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240314055919.1979781-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v2. Drop the cycles breakdown in favor of having it as a common
> metric, spelling and other improvements suggested by Kan Liang
> <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240301185559.2661241-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v1. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001806.4158429-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> ARM:
> v7. Switch a use of cycles to cpu-cycles due to ARM having too many
> cycles events.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250904194139.1540230-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v6. Fix issue with '\-' escape not being '\\-' (reported-by Sandipan
> Das <sandidas@amd.com>) which didn't alter the generated json.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250904045253.1007052-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v5. Rebase. Address review comments from Leo Yan
> <leo.yan@arm.com>. Prefix all metric names with lpm_ (short for
> Linux Perf Metric) so that python generated metrics are clearly
> namespaced. Use cpu-cycles rather than cycles legacy event for
> cycles metrics to avoid confusion with ARM PMUs. Add patch that
> checks events to ensure all possible event names are present in at
> least one json file.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250829053235.21994-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v4. Tweak to build dependencies and rebase.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240926175709.410022-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v3. Some minor code cleanup changes.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240314055801.1973422-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v2. The cycles metrics are now made common and shared with AMD and
> Intel, suggested by Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>. This
> assumes these patches come after the AMD and Intel sets.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240301184942.2660478-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> v1. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001325.4157655-1-irogers@google.com/
>
> Ian Rogers (52):
> perf python: Correct copying of metric_leader in an evsel
> perf ilist: Be tolerant of reading a metric on the wrong CPU
> perf jevents: Allow multiple metricgroups.json files
> perf jevents: Update metric constraint support
> perf jevents: Add descriptions to metricgroup abstraction
> perf jevents: Allow metric groups not to be named
> perf jevents: Support parsing negative exponents
> perf jevents: Term list fix in event parsing
> perf jevents: Add threshold expressions to Metric
> perf jevents: Move json encoding to its own functions
> perf jevents: Drop duplicate pending metrics
> perf jevents: Skip optional metrics in metric group list
> perf jevents: Build support for generating metrics from python
> perf jevents: Add load event json to verify and allow fallbacks
> perf jevents: Add RAPL event metric for AMD zen models
> perf jevents: Add idle metric for AMD zen models
> perf jevents: Add upc metric for uops per cycle for AMD
> perf jevents: Add br metric group for branch statistics on AMD
> perf jevents: Add software prefetch (swpf) metric group for AMD
> perf jevents: Add hardware prefetch (hwpf) metric group for AMD
> perf jevents: Add itlb metric group for AMD
> perf jevents: Add dtlb metric group for AMD
> perf jevents: Add uncore l3 metric group for AMD
> perf jevents: Add load store breakdown metrics ldst for AMD
> perf jevents: Add ILP metrics for AMD
> perf jevents: Add context switch metrics for AMD
> perf jevents: Add uop cache hit/miss rates for AMD
> perf jevents: Add RAPL metrics for all Intel models
> perf jevents: Add idle metric for Intel models
> perf jevents: Add CheckPmu to see if a PMU is in loaded json events
> perf jevents: Add smi metric group for Intel models
> perf jevents: Mark metrics with experimental events as experimental
> perf jevents: Add tsx metric group for Intel models
> perf jevents: Add br metric group for branch statistics on Intel
> perf jevents: Add software prefetch (swpf) metric group for Intel
> perf jevents: Add ports metric group giving utilization on Intel
> perf jevents: Add L2 metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add load store breakdown metrics ldst for Intel
> perf jevents: Add ILP metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add context switch metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add FPU metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add Miss Level Parallelism (MLP) metric for Intel
> perf jevents: Add mem_bw metric for Intel
> perf jevents: Add local/remote "mem" breakdown metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add dir breakdown metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add C-State metrics from the PCU PMU for Intel
> perf jevents: Add local/remote miss latency metrics for Intel
> perf jevents: Add upi_bw metric for Intel
> perf jevents: Add mesh bandwidth saturation metric for Intel
> perf jevents: Add collection of topdown like metrics for arm64
> perf jevents: Add cycles breakdown metric for arm64/AMD/Intel
> perf jevents: Validate that all names given an Event
>
> tools/perf/.gitignore | 5 +
> tools/perf/Makefile.perf | 2 +
> tools/perf/pmu-events/Build | 51 +-
> tools/perf/pmu-events/amd_metrics.py | 711 ++++++++++++++
> tools/perf/pmu-events/arm64_metrics.py | 187 ++++
> tools/perf/pmu-events/common_metrics.py | 19 +
> tools/perf/pmu-events/intel_metrics.py | 1129 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> tools/perf/pmu-events/jevents.py | 7 +-
> tools/perf/pmu-events/metric.py | 256 ++++-
> tools/perf/pmu-events/metric_test.py | 4 +
> tools/perf/python/ilist.py | 8 +-
> tools/perf/util/evsel.c | 1 +
> tools/perf/util/python.c | 82 +-
> 13 files changed, 2408 insertions(+), 54 deletions(-)
> create mode 100755 tools/perf/pmu-events/amd_metrics.py
> create mode 100755 tools/perf/pmu-events/arm64_metrics.py
> create mode 100644 tools/perf/pmu-events/common_metrics.py
> create mode 100755 tools/perf/pmu-events/intel_metrics.py
>
> --
> 2.51.2.1041.gc1ab5b90ca-goog
>
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2025-11-13 3:19 [PATCH v8 00/52] AMD, ARM, Intel metric generation with Python Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 01/52] perf python: Correct copying of metric_leader in an evsel Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 02/52] perf ilist: Be tolerant of reading a metric on the wrong CPU Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 03/52] perf jevents: Allow multiple metricgroups.json files Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 04/52] perf jevents: Update metric constraint support Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 05/52] perf jevents: Add descriptions to metricgroup abstraction Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 06/52] perf jevents: Allow metric groups not to be named Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 07/52] perf jevents: Support parsing negative exponents Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 08/52] perf jevents: Term list fix in event parsing Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 09/52] perf jevents: Add threshold expressions to Metric Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 10/52] perf jevents: Move json encoding to its own functions Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:19 ` [PATCH v8 11/52] perf jevents: Drop duplicate pending metrics Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 12/52] perf jevents: Skip optional metrics in metric group list Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 13/52] perf jevents: Build support for generating metrics from python Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 14/52] perf jevents: Add load event json to verify and allow fallbacks Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 15/52] perf jevents: Add RAPL event metric for AMD zen models Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 5:05 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-28 9:20 ` Ian Rogers
2025-11-28 11:33 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 16/52] perf jevents: Add idle " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 17/52] perf jevents: Add upc metric for uops per cycle for AMD Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 18/52] perf jevents: Add br metric group for branch statistics on AMD Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 19/52] perf jevents: Add software prefetch (swpf) metric group for AMD Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 10:05 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 20/52] perf jevents: Add hardware prefetch (hwpf) " Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 10:17 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 21/52] perf jevents: Add itlb " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 22/52] perf jevents: Add dtlb " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 23/52] perf jevents: Add uncore l3 " Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 5:20 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 24/52] perf jevents: Add load store breakdown metrics ldst " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 25/52] perf jevents: Add ILP metrics " Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 6:26 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 26/52] perf jevents: Add context switch " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 27/52] perf jevents: Add uop cache hit/miss rates " Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 5:42 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 28/52] perf jevents: Add RAPL metrics for all Intel models Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 29/52] perf jevents: Add idle metric for " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 30/52] perf jevents: Add CheckPmu to see if a PMU is in loaded json events Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 31/52] perf jevents: Add smi metric group for Intel models Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 32/52] perf jevents: Mark metrics with experimental events as experimental Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 33/52] perf jevents: Add tsx metric group for Intel models Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 34/52] perf jevents: Add br metric group for branch statistics on Intel Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 35/52] perf jevents: Add software prefetch (swpf) metric group for Intel Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 36/52] perf jevents: Add ports metric group giving utilization on Intel Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 37/52] perf jevents: Add L2 metrics for Intel Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 38/52] perf jevents: Add load store breakdown metrics ldst " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 39/52] perf jevents: Add ILP metrics " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 40/52] perf jevents: Add context switch " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 41/52] perf jevents: Add FPU " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 42/52] perf jevents: Add Miss Level Parallelism (MLP) metric " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 43/52] perf jevents: Add mem_bw " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 44/52] perf jevents: Add local/remote "mem" breakdown metrics " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 45/52] perf jevents: Add dir " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 46/52] perf jevents: Add C-State metrics from the PCU PMU " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 47/52] perf jevents: Add local/remote miss latency metrics " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 48/52] perf jevents: Add upi_bw metric " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 49/52] perf jevents: Add mesh bandwidth saturation " Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 50/52] perf jevents: Add collection of topdown like metrics for arm64 Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 51/52] perf jevents: Add cycles breakdown metric for arm64/AMD/Intel Ian Rogers
2025-11-26 6:32 ` Sandipan Das
2025-11-13 3:20 ` [PATCH v8 52/52] perf jevents: Validate that all names given an Event Ian Rogers
2025-11-19 18:30 ` [PATCH v8 00/52] AMD, ARM, Intel metric generation with Python Ian Rogers
2025-11-20 20:32 ` Falcon, Thomas
2025-11-20 21:10 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
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