From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 12/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:51:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRd6Lv2ZJzkJIq45@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRNvZvNnEYFXfZmI@e133380.arm.com>
On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 05:16:22PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
... snip
> > I'm not a fan of the "floor" option. Looks like it loses precision. Terrible for
>
> Loses precision, but does not advertise bogus precision precision
> beyond the precision in the original value. (This is why it is not
> standard to print doubles with more then 15 significant digits, even
> though 17 significant digits are needed for bit-exact reproduction.)
>
> I don't know whether this matters relative to the use cases, but it
> would be nice to have some rationale.
>
> > 1-3 binary bits. Also not what I'd like for the bits==18 case that I currently
> > care about.
> >
> > "ceil" is good for bits > 6. Almost matches my numbers (except I jump
> > to one more decimal place one binary bit earlier).
> >
> > What do you think of me swapping out the values from 7 upwards for the
> > ceil values and documenting that 0..6 are hand-picked, but 7 and up are
> > ceil(binary_bits * log10_2)?
>
> If there is sound rationale for hand-picking some values then yes.
>
> I haven't yet been convinced that there is ;)
I don't have a rationale and I've been doing the thing I tell others
not to do "getting attached to code that I wrote". I will switch the
whole table to the ceil(binary_bits * log10_2) values.
One exception for binary_bits == 0. Back in the v6 version of these
patches I printed as a plain integer. Reinette commented[1]:
At this time I understand that it will be clear for which
events user space expects floating point numbers. If the architecture in
turn does not support any "binary bits" then I think resctrl
should still print a floating point number ("x.0") to match user space
expectation.
-Tony
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/8214ae1f-d64c-496c-b41d-13b31250acea@intel.com/ [1]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-14 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-29 16:20 [PATCH v13 00/32] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 01/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Improve domain type checking Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 02/32] x86/resctrl: Move L3 initialization into new helper function Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 03/32] x86/resctrl: Refactor domain_remove_cpu_mon() ready for new domain types Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 04/32] x86/resctrl: Clean up domain_remove_cpu_ctrl() Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 05/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain create/remove using struct rdt_domain_hdr Tony Luck
2025-11-12 19:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 06/32] fs/resctrl: Split L3 dependent parts out of __mon_event_count() Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 07/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Use struct rdt_domain_hdr when reading counters Tony Luck
2025-11-12 19:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 08/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename struct rdt_mon_domain and rdt_hw_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-11-13 4:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 09/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename some L3 specific functions Tony Luck
2025-11-13 4:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 10/32] fs/resctrl: Make event details accessible to functions when reading events Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 11/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle events that can be read from any CPU Tony Luck
2025-10-30 6:14 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-10-30 15:54 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-30 16:18 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-11-13 4:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 12/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters Tony Luck
2025-11-05 14:42 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-05 23:31 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-06 0:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-11 17:22 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-12 16:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-06 2:27 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-11 17:31 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-14 18:39 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-11 17:16 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-14 18:51 ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2025-11-10 16:52 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-11 17:34 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-12 13:08 ` David Laight
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 13/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Add an architectural hook called for each mount Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 14/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Add and initialize rdt_resource for package scope monitor Tony Luck
2025-11-13 4:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 15/32] fs/resctrl: Cleanup as L3 is no longer the only monitor resource Tony Luck
2025-11-13 4:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:20 ` [PATCH v13 16/32] x86/resctrl: Discover hardware telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-11-13 4:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 17/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Fill in details of events for guid 0x26696143 and 0x26557651 Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 18/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Add architectural event pointer Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 19/32] x86/resctrl: Find and enable usable telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 20/32] x86/resctrl: Read " Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 21/32] fs/resctrl: Refactor mkdir_mondata_subdir() Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 22/32] fs/resctrl: Refactor rmdir_mondata_subdir_allrdtgrp() Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 23/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle domain creation/deletion for RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 24/32] x86/resctrl: Add energy/perf choices to rdt boot option Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 25/32] x86/resctrl: Handle number of RMIDs supported by RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-14 21:55 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-14 23:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-17 16:37 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-17 17:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-17 18:52 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-18 16:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-18 17:35 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-18 18:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 26/32] fs/resctrl: Move allocation/free of closid_num_dirty_rmid[] Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 27/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Compute number of RMIDs as minimum across resources Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 28/32] fs/resctrl: Move RMID initialization to first mount Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 29/32] x86/resctrl: Enable RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 30/32] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to create architecture specific debugfs area Tony Luck
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 31/32] x86/resctrl: Add debugfs files to show telemetry aggregator status Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 16:21 ` [PATCH v13 32/32] x86,fs/resctrl: Update documentation for telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-11-13 22:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-29 18:59 ` [PATCH v13 00/32] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Luck, Tony
2025-11-05 15:33 ` Moger, Babu
2025-11-05 15:41 ` Luck, Tony
2025-12-17 0:28 ` Luck, Tony
2025-12-17 16:44 ` Moger, Babu
2025-12-17 17:08 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-16 17:35 ` Drew Fustini
2025-11-17 16:52 ` Luck, Tony
2025-11-18 23:03 ` Drew Fustini
2025-11-18 23:12 ` Luck, Tony
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