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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: Timur Tabi <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
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	"dakr@kernel.org" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	 "lyude@redhat.com" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	 John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	 "rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org"
	<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] gpu: nova-core: LibosMemoryRegionInitArgument size must be page aligned
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:03:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTAnHrcaP23_6lDh@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DEOK871CSNZB.W94R3SDUDZ22@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 08:54:31PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Tue Dec 2, 2025 at 8:25 AM JST, Timur Tabi wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-11-19 at 12:36 +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> >> You can use the `Alignment` type here, as the rest of the code does:
> >> 
> >>     let size = num::usize_as_u64(obj.size())
> >>         .align_up(Alignment::new::<GSP_PAGE_SIZE>())?;
> >> 
> >> Now `align_up` returns an error in case of overflow, that we will need
> >> to pass down to the caller by changing the return type of `new`. It is a
> >> bit annoying, but better than the behavior of `next_mutiple_of` in such
> >> a case, which is to panic. :)
> >
> > I see your point, but these are u64s that we're talking about.  The only way next_mutiple_of() can
> > panic is if obj.size() is greater than 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFF000, which is not possible.  
> >
> > I would say in this case, a panic is preferable to a convoluted error return that will never be
> > exercised, because failure here indicates a coding error, not an input error.
> 
> The input data is a usize, so technically we could get an input that
> triggers that error.
> 
> I know it's a very edge case, and clearly indicates a bug, but the
> general rule is: don't panic the kernel. And in Rust, if possible, don't
> even let me compiler insert panic-handling code. If you don't want to
> change the return type of the method, then maybe use `unwrap_or` and
> `inspect_err` to print an error before returning e.g. `0`.
> 
> But others have already thought "naah, that's never gonna happen" and
> got burnt very publicly [1], so let's learn from that. :P
> 
> [1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/

For what it's worth, my friend at Cloudflare tells me they would have
failed in the same way had they used ? instead of unwrap.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-03 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 23:30 [PATCH 00/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 01/11] gpu: nova-core: rename Imem to ImemSec Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:50   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 02/11] gpu: nova-core: add ImemNs section infrastructure Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:19   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-19  1:54   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:30     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  6:55       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19 19:54         ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19 20:34           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19 20:45             ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19 20:54               ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 20:56                 ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-20  1:45           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-24 22:24             ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 03/11] gpu: nova-core: support header parsing on Turing/GA100 Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:33   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18  0:52     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  1:04       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18  1:06         ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  1:15           ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18  1:29             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18  1:12         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18 19:42           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  2:51   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  5:16     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  7:03       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-24 23:24         ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-24 23:54           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:04       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 20:10         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-24 23:47           ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-24 23:55             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-25  0:57               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-25  1:02                 ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-25  0:05             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 04/11] gpu: nova-core: add support for Turing/GA100 fwsignature Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:20   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-19  2:59   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  5:17     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  7:11     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:17       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  7:34         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] gpu: nova-core: add NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFCMD::with_falcon_mem() Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  3:04   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:32     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 06/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing boot registers Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:41   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  2:17   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:34     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  6:47       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:51         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  7:15           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:24             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 19:10               ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-20  1:41                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 07/11] gpu: nova-core: move some functions into the HAL Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 08/11] gpu: nova-core: Add basic Turing HAL Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  0:50   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  3:11   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 09/11] gpu: nova-core: add FalconUCodeDescV2 support Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:10   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18 13:04     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-18 15:08       ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18 19:46         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  1:36         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-18 19:45       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  6:40         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-25 23:59     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-26  0:31       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-26  1:05         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-26  1:09           ` John Hubbard
2025-11-26  9:57           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-12-01 21:11     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  3:27   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 10/11] gpu: nova-core: LibosMemoryRegionInitArgument size must be page aligned Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  3:36   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-01 23:25     ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-03 11:54       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-03 12:03         ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2025-12-03 13:39           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-03 18:31         ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04 14:43           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-04 21:18             ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04 21:45               ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-05  0:35                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-05 20:22                   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-09  2:53                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-05 23:22                   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-09  2:55                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-03 18:34         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-12-03 19:17           ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] gpu: nova-core: add PIO support for loading firmware images Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:34   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18 13:08     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-12-01 23:26     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  4:28   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19 13:49     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:01   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  4:29 ` [PATCH 00/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support Alexandre Courbot

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