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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	lyude@redhat.com,  boqun.feng@gmail.com, will@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org,  richard.henderson@linaro.org,
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	ojeda@kernel.org, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,  lossin@kernel.org,
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	 frederic@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	anna-maria@linutronix.de,  jstultz@google.com, sboyd@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,  brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
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	 rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] rust: hrtimer: use READ_ONCE instead of read_volatile
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 18:43:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aV1XxWbXwkdM_AdA@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260106152300.7fec3847.gary@garyguo.net>

On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 03:23:00PM +0000, Gary Guo wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2026 13:37:34 +0100
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > "FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > Sorry, of course this should be:
> > >
> > > +__rust_helper ktime_t rust_helper_hrtimer_get_expires(const struct hrtimer *timer)
> > > +{
> > > +	return hrtimer_get_expires(timer);
> > > +}
> > >  
> > 
> > This is a potentially racy read. As far as I recall, we determined that
> > using read_once is the proper way to handle the situation.
> > 
> > I do not think it makes a difference that the read is done by C code.
> 
> If that's the case I think the C code should be fixed by inserting the
> READ_ONCE?

I maintain my position that if this is what you recommend C code does,
it's confusing to not make the same recommendation for Rust abstractions
to the same thing.

After all, nothing is stopping you from calling atomic_read() in C too.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-31 12:22 [PATCH 0/5] Add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE to Rust Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] arch: add CONFIG_ARCH_USE_CUSTOM_READ_ONCE for arm64/alpha Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 2/5] rust: sync: add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE Alice Ryhl
2026-01-06 12:29   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 12:53     ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] rust: sync: support using bool with READ_ONCE Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 15:25   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-06 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-06 12:51     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-06 18:12     ` Gary Guo
2026-01-07  8:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-07 18:12         ` Gary Guo
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] rust: hrtimer: use READ_ONCE instead of read_volatile Alice Ryhl
2026-01-01  2:11   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-01  4:00     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-06 12:37       ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 13:28         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-07 10:11           ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 11:22             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-07 18:21               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-09  2:10                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-09 10:42                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 11:51             ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-07 12:48               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 15:23         ` Gary Guo
2026-01-06 18:43           ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-01-07  0:47             ` John Hubbard
2026-01-07  1:08               ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-07  2:59                 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-07  1:18             ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] rust: fs: " Alice Ryhl
2026-01-21  0:47   ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 15:12 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE to Rust Gary Guo
2026-01-01  0:53   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-01  1:13     ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-06 12:41       ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 13:09         ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-06 14:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-06 18:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-06 19:28               ` Marco Elver
2026-01-09  2:09                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-09 12:00                   ` Marco Elver
2026-01-07  8:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-07 19:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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