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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] perf inject: Add --convert-callchain option
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 14:47:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aVhK5dVEaOyM6P6i@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fV1zHMg++itfmCe1xCNanVsgRkDsk5WQ5wtkbaedzSaCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ian,

Happy new year!

On Thu, Jan 01, 2026 at 12:07:50PM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 1:57 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > There are applications not built with frame pointers, so DWARF is needed
> > to get the stack traces.  So `perf record --call-graph dwarf` saves the
> > stack and register data for each sample to get the stacktrace offline.
> > But sometimes those data may have sensitive information and we don't
> > want to keep them in the file.
> >
> > This perf inject --convert-callchain option parses the callchains and
> > discard the stack and register after that.  This will save storage space
> > and processing time for the new data file.  Of course, users should
> > remove the original data file. :)
> 
> This is a really cool feature!

Thanks! :)

> 
> > The down side is that it cannot handle inlined callchain entries as they
> > all have the same IPs.  Maybe we can add an option to perf report to
> > look up inlined functions using DWARF - IIUC it won't requires stack and
> > register data.
> >
> > This is an example.
> >
> >   $ perf record --call-graph dwarf -- perf test -w noploop
> >
> >   $ perf report --stdio --no-children --percent-limit=0 > output-prev
> >
> >   $ perf inject -i perf.data --convert-callchain -o perf.data.out
> >
> >   $ perf report --stdio --no-children --percent-limit=0 -i perf.data.out > output-next
> >
> >   $ diff -u output-prev output-next
> >   ...
> >         0.23%  perf          ld-linux-x86-64.so.2  [.] _dl_relocate_object_no_relro
> >                |
> >   -            ---elf_dynamic_do_Rela (inlined)
> >   -               _dl_relocate_object_no_relro
> >   +            ---_dl_relocate_object_no_relro
> >                   _dl_relocate_object
> >                   dl_main
> >                   _dl_sysdep_start
> >   -               _dl_start_final (inlined)
> >                   _dl_start
> >                   _start
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  tools/perf/Documentation/perf-inject.txt |   5 +
> >  tools/perf/builtin-inject.c              | 128 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 133 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-inject.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-inject.txt
> > index c972032f4ca0d248..95dfdf39666efe89 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-inject.txt
> > +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-inject.txt
> > @@ -109,6 +109,11 @@ include::itrace.txt[]
> >         should be used, and also --buildid-all and --switch-events may be
> >         useful.
> >
> > +--convert-callchain::
> > +       Parse DWARF callchains and convert them to usual callchains.  This also
> > +       discards stack and register data from the samples.  This will lose
> > +       inlined callchain entries.
> > +
> >  :GMEXAMPLECMD: inject
> >  :GMEXAMPLESUBCMD:
> >  include::guestmount.txt[]
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/builtin-inject.c b/tools/perf/builtin-inject.c
> > index 6080afec537d2178..2a2fcc8e3e9e5fe5 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/builtin-inject.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/builtin-inject.c
> > @@ -122,6 +122,7 @@ struct perf_inject {
> >         bool                    in_place_update;
> >         bool                    in_place_update_dry_run;
> >         bool                    copy_kcore_dir;
> > +       bool                    convert_callchain;
> >         const char              *input_name;
> >         struct perf_data        output;
> >         u64                     bytes_written;
> > @@ -133,6 +134,7 @@ struct perf_inject {
> >         struct guest_session    guest_session;
> >         struct strlist          *known_build_ids;
> >         const struct evsel      *mmap_evsel;
> > +       struct ip_callchain     *raw_callchain;
> >  };
> >
> >  struct event_entry {
> > @@ -383,6 +385,89 @@ static int perf_event__repipe_sample(const struct perf_tool *tool,
> >         return perf_event__repipe_synth(tool, event);
> >  }
> >
> > +static int perf_event__convert_sample_callchain(const struct perf_tool *tool,
> > +                                               union perf_event *event,
> > +                                               struct perf_sample *sample,
> > +                                               struct evsel *evsel,
> > +                                               struct machine *machine)
> > +{
> > +       struct perf_inject *inject = container_of(tool, struct perf_inject, tool);
> > +       struct callchain_cursor *cursor = get_tls_callchain_cursor();
> > +       union perf_event *event_copy = (void *)inject->event_copy;
> > +       struct callchain_cursor_node *node;
> > +       struct thread *thread;
> > +       u64 sample_type = evsel->core.attr.sample_type;
> > +       u32 sample_size = event->header.size;
> > +       u64 i, k;
> > +       int ret;
> > +
> > +       if (event_copy == NULL) {
> > +               inject->event_copy = malloc(PERF_SAMPLE_MAX_SIZE);
> > +               if (!inject->event_copy)
> > +                       return -ENOMEM;
> > +
> > +               event_copy = (void *)inject->event_copy;
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       if (cursor == NULL)
> > +               return perf_event__repipe_synth(tool, event);
> > +
> > +       callchain_cursor_reset(cursor);
> > +
> > +       thread = machine__find_thread(machine, -1, sample->pid);
> > +       if (thread == NULL)
> > +               return perf_event__repipe_synth(tool, event);
> > +
> > +       /* this will parse DWARF using stack and register data */
> > +       ret = thread__resolve_callchain(thread, cursor, evsel, sample,
> > +                                       /*parent=*/NULL, /*root_al=*/NULL,
> > +                                       PERF_MAX_STACK_DEPTH);
> > +       thread__put(thread);
> > +       if (ret != 0)
> > +               return perf_event__repipe_synth(tool, event);
> > +
> > +       /* copy kernel callchain and context entries */
> > +       for (i = 0; i < sample->callchain->nr; i++) {
> > +               inject->raw_callchain->ips[i] = sample->callchain->ips[i];
> > +               if (sample->callchain->ips[i] == PERF_CONTEXT_USER) {
> > +                       i++;
> > +                       break;
> > +               }
> > +       }
> > +       if (i == 0 || inject->raw_callchain->ips[i - 1] != PERF_CONTEXT_USER)
> > +               inject->raw_callchain->ips[i++] = PERF_CONTEXT_USER;
> > +
> > +       node = cursor->first;
> > +       for (k = 0; k < cursor->nr && i < PERF_MAX_STACK_DEPTH; k++) {
> > +               if (node->ms.map && __map__is_kernel(node->ms.map))
> > +                       /* kernel IPs were added already */;
> > +               else if (node->ms.sym && node->ms.sym->inlined)
> > +                       /* we don't handle inlined symbols */;
> > +               else
> > +                       inject->raw_callchain->ips[i++] = node->ip;
> > +
> > +               node = node->next;
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       inject->raw_callchain->nr = i;
> > +       sample->callchain = inject->raw_callchain;
> > +
> > +       memcpy(event_copy, event, sizeof(event->header));
> > +
> > +       /* adjust sample size for stack and regs */
> > +       sample_size -= sample->user_stack.size;
> > +       sample_size -= (hweight64(evsel->core.attr.sample_regs_user) + 1) * sizeof(u64);
> > +       sample_size += (sample->callchain->nr + 1) * sizeof(u64);
> > +       event_copy->header.size = sample_size;
> > +
> > +       /* remove sample_type {STACK,REGS}_USER for synthesize */
> > +       sample_type &= ~(PERF_SAMPLE_STACK_USER | PERF_SAMPLE_REGS_USER);
> > +
> > +       perf_event__synthesize_sample(event_copy, sample_type,
> > +                                     evsel->core.attr.read_format, sample);
> > +       return perf_event__repipe_synth(tool, event_copy);
> > +}
> > +
> >  static struct dso *findnew_dso(int pid, int tid, const char *filename,
> >                                const struct dso_id *id, struct machine *machine)
> >  {
> > @@ -2270,6 +2355,13 @@ static int __cmd_inject(struct perf_inject *inject)
> >                 /* Allow space in the header for guest attributes */
> >                 output_data_offset += gs->session->header.data_offset;
> >                 output_data_offset = roundup(output_data_offset, 4096);
> > +       } else if (inject->convert_callchain) {
> 
> The "else" here is a problem as you may want to do build ID injection,
> for example, while also rewriting the callchains. A solution to this
> is the delegate tool:
> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/util/tool.h?h=perf-tools-next#n107
> where you rewrite samples in the delegate tool and then pass
> everything through to the regular inject tool.

Maybe we can add one more round of perf inject - one for build-ID and
another for callchain?

> 
> > +               inject->tool.sample     = perf_event__convert_sample_callchain;
> > +               inject->tool.fork       = perf_event__repipe_fork;
> > +               inject->tool.comm       = perf_event__repipe_comm;
> > +               inject->tool.exit       = perf_event__repipe_exit;
> > +               inject->tool.mmap       = perf_event__repipe_mmap;
> > +               inject->tool.mmap2      = perf_event__repipe_mmap2;
> >         }
> >
> >         if (!inject->itrace_synth_opts.set)
> > @@ -2322,6 +2414,23 @@ static int __cmd_inject(struct perf_inject *inject)
> >                                 perf_header__set_feat(&session->header,
> >                                                       HEADER_BRANCH_STACK);
> >                 }
> > +
> > +               /*
> > +                * The converted data file won't have stack and registers.
> > +                * Update the perf_event_attr to remove them before writing.
> > +                */
> > +               if (inject->convert_callchain) {
> > +                       struct evsel *evsel;
> > +
> > +                       evlist__for_each_entry(session->evlist, evsel) {
> > +                               evsel__reset_sample_bit(evsel, REGS_USER);
> > +                               evsel__reset_sample_bit(evsel, STACK_USER);
> > +                               evsel->core.attr.sample_regs_user = 0;
> > +                               evsel->core.attr.sample_stack_user = 0;
> > +                               evsel->core.attr.exclude_callchain_user = 0;
> > +                       }
> 
> I think the delegate tool also makes these cleaner as potentially
> things can break if the struct perf_sample data is out of sync with
> the evlist. With a delegate tool you can have a notion of incoming and
> outgoing state, and match the incoming and outgoing evlists.

I feel like it's already a bug when they are out of sync.

> 
> I'm not sure how serious this feedback should be taken, the whole good
> vs perfect argument. I think the only other thing missing is a test,
> and turning the commit message into one doesn't appear too difficult.

I worried about test flakiness, but I'll try to write one.

Thanks,
Namhyung

> 
> > +               }
> > +
> >                 session->header.data_offset = output_data_offset;
> >                 session->header.data_size = inject->bytes_written;
> >                 perf_session__inject_header(session, session->evlist, fd, &inj_fc.fc,
> > @@ -2414,6 +2523,8 @@ int cmd_inject(int argc, const char **argv)
> >                 OPT_STRING(0, "guestmount", &symbol_conf.guestmount, "directory",
> >                            "guest mount directory under which every guest os"
> >                            " instance has a subdir"),
> > +               OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "convert-callchain", &inject.convert_callchain,
> > +                           "Generate callchains using DWARF and drop register/stack data"),
> >                 OPT_END()
> >         };
> >         const char * const inject_usage[] = {
> > @@ -2429,6 +2540,9 @@ int cmd_inject(int argc, const char **argv)
> >
> >  #ifndef HAVE_JITDUMP
> >         set_option_nobuild(options, 'j', "jit", "NO_LIBELF=1", true);
> > +#endif
> > +#ifndef HAVE_LIBDW_SUPPORT
> > +       set_option_nobuild(options, 0, "convert-callchain", "NO_LIBDW=1", true);
> >  #endif
> >         argc = parse_options(argc, argv, options, inject_usage, 0);
> >
> > @@ -2588,6 +2702,19 @@ int cmd_inject(int argc, const char **argv)
> >                 }
> >         }
> >
> > +       if (inject.convert_callchain) {
> > +               if (inject->output.is_pipe || inject->session->data->is_pipe) {
> > +                       pr_err("--convert-callchain cannot work with pipe\n");
> > +                       goto out_delete;
> > +               }
> > +
> > +               inject.raw_callchain = calloc(PERF_MAX_STACK_DEPTH, sizeof(u64));
> > +               if (inject.raw_callchain == NULL) {
> > +                       pr_err("callchain allocation failed\n");
> > +                       goto out_delete;
> > +               }
> > +       }
> > +
> >  #ifdef HAVE_JITDUMP
> >         if (inject.jit_mode) {
> >                 inject.tool.mmap2          = perf_event__repipe_mmap2;
> > @@ -2618,5 +2745,6 @@ int cmd_inject(int argc, const char **argv)
> >         free(inject.itrace_synth_opts.vm_tm_corr_args);
> >         free(inject.event_copy);
> >         free(inject.guest_session.ev.event_buf);
> > +       free(inject.raw_callchain);
> >         return ret;
> >  }
> > --
> > 2.52.0.322.g1dd061c0dc-goog
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-02 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-18 21:57 [RFC/PATCH] perf inject: Add --convert-callchain option Namhyung Kim
2026-01-01 20:07 ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-02 22:47   ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-01-02 12:08 ` James Clark
2026-01-02 22:56   ` Namhyung Kim

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