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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Li-Wen Hsu" <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Ed Maste" <emaste@freebsd.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/15] python/mkvenv: add 'checktests' and 'functests' dependency groups
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 12:11:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aVz792X-D_14Ka4f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251205060058.1503170-4-jsnow@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 01:00:45AM -0500, John Snow wrote:
> 'checktests' contains depedencies *required* to run "make check", and as
> such, we promise that these dependencies can be sourced from the user's
> distribution repository or from vendored packages so that "make check"
> can be executed offline in an isolated build environment.
> 
> In contrast, pygdbmi is only needed for functional tests and not tests
> in general; we do not make the same offline/isolated guarantees for
> functional tests, and this dependency group is allowed to fetch
> dependencies from PyPI at runtime.
> 
> For the time being, Amend the "check-venv" target to install both
> dependency groups, to avoid a duplicate dependency between them.

We now have the 'run' script concept merged, so we can do
"./run ..." and it'll "do the right thing" executing with
the python venv in $PYTHONPATH, and locally built binaries
in $PATH, etc.

What I think is missing is to ensure that qemu.qmp is *always*
available in the venv.

The split of python deps between vendored and non-vendored
pieces makes sense, but the association of 'qemu.qmp' with
tests is overlooking that qemu.qmp is used for more than
just the tests - it is also a dep of qmp-shell which is a
developer tool. Given this I think tieing install of qemu.qmp
to 'make check' (via 'make check-venv') is a mistake. Instead
we should unconditionally install it when configure is run.

We have precedent for that in --enable-rust unconditionally
installing all vendored Rust crates.  Since we vendor qemu.qmp
there's no download penalty, and timing the venv creation
shows it takes about 1 second which is insignificant in the
context of everything else configure does. 

Anyway, if we move the 'checktests' group install to configure,
then combined with the new 'run' script we would eliminate the
main behaviour regression from removing qemu.qmp from git.


Leaving the 'functests' group to be lazy installed is OK, since
as a developer if you're running a functional test directly,
that is pretty likely to be after you already had run the
'make check-functional' command and saw a failure. IOW the
venv will be populated with the needed deps.

> 
> Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> ---
>  pythondeps.toml        | 10 +++++++++-
>  tests/Makefile.include |  2 +-
>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/pythondeps.toml b/pythondeps.toml
> index 1657953ff65..14ceb4e7787 100644
> --- a/pythondeps.toml
> +++ b/pythondeps.toml
> @@ -31,6 +31,14 @@ meson = { accepted = ">=1.9.0", installed = "1.9.0", canary = "meson" }
>  sphinx = { accepted = ">=3.4.3", installed = "6.2.1", canary = "sphinx-build" }
>  sphinx_rtd_theme = { accepted = ">=0.5", installed = "1.2.2" }
>  
> -[testdeps]
> +# This test group is for dependencies required to run "make check"
> +# successfully, and should only include depedencies that can be
> +# guaranteed via configure from system packages, or python packages we
> +# vendor.
> +[checktests]
>  "qemu.qmp" = { accepted = ">=0.0.5", installed = "0.0.5" }
> +
> +# This test group is for functional tests, and can include dependencies
> +# fetched from PyPI.
> +[functests]
>  pygdbmi = { accepted = ">=0.11.0.0", installed = "0.11.0.0" }
> diff --git a/tests/Makefile.include b/tests/Makefile.include
> index d4dfbf3716d..40b114bd158 100644
> --- a/tests/Makefile.include
> +++ b/tests/Makefile.include
> @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ quiet-venv-pip = $(quiet-@)$(call quiet-command-run, \
>  
>  $(TESTS_VENV_TOKEN): $(SRC_PATH)/pythondeps.toml
>  	$(call quiet-venv-pip,install -e "$(SRC_PATH)/python/")
> -	$(MKVENV_ENSUREGROUP) $< testdeps
> +	$(MKVENV_ENSUREGROUP) $< checktests functests
>  	$(call quiet-command, touch $@)
>  
>  check-venv: $(TESTS_VENV_TOKEN)
> -- 
> 2.51.1
> 

With regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-05  6:00 [PATCH v3 00/15] python: drop qemu.qmp from qemu.git tree John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] python/mkvenv: create timestamp file for each group "ensured" John Snow
2025-12-05  8:32   ` Thomas Huth
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] python/mkvenv: bump 'qemu.qmp' dependency for testdeps John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] python/mkvenv: add 'checktests' and 'functests' dependency groups John Snow
2025-12-05  8:47   ` Thomas Huth
2026-01-06 12:11   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2026-01-13 20:43     ` John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] python/mkvenv: add mechanism to install local package(s) John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] meson, mkvenv: add checktests and functests custom targets John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] tests: Use configured python to run GitLab iotests John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] tests: run "make check-venv" before running iotests John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] tests: ensure "make check-venv" is run for crash tests John Snow
2025-12-05  8:53   ` Thomas Huth
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] tests/lcitool: add python3 wheel and setuptools deps for qemu John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] python: add vendored qemu.qmp package John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] meson, mkvenv: make iotests depend on checktests group John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] meson, mkvenv: make functional tests depend on functests group John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] meson, mkvenv: add qemu.git/python/qemu package to pythondeps.toml John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] tests: replace old "check-venv" target with meson target John Snow
2025-12-05  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] python: delete qemu.qmp John Snow
2025-12-09 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] python: drop qemu.qmp from qemu.git tree John Snow
2025-12-09 17:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-12-09 17:23   ` John Snow
2025-12-09 19:43     ` John Snow
2025-12-09 19:46     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-12-09 20:05       ` John Snow
2025-12-10 16:25         ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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