From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:40:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWZLZzo5Hb1aFZ0j@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260113081453.8293-4-akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
On Tue 13-01-26 17:14:53, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> On systems with multiple memory-tiers consisting of DRAM and CXL memory,
> the OOM killer is not invoked properly.
>
> Here's the command to reproduce:
>
> $ sudo swapoff -a
> $ stress-ng --oomable -v --memrate 20 --memrate-bytes 10G \
> --memrate-rd-mbs 1 --memrate-wr-mbs 1
>
> The memory usage is the number of workers specified with the --memrate
> option multiplied by the buffer size specified with the --memrate-bytes
> option, so please adjust it so that it exceeds the total size of the
> installed DRAM and CXL memory.
>
> If swap is disabled, you can usually expect the OOM killer to terminate
> the stress-ng process when memory usage approaches the installed memory
> size.
>
> However, if multiple memory-tiers exist (multiple
> /sys/devices/virtual/memory_tiering/memory_tier<N> directories exist) and
> /sys/kernel/mm/numa/demotion_enabled is true, the OOM killer will not be
> invoked and the system will become inoperable, regardless of whether MGLRU
> is enabled or not.
>
> This issue can be reproduced using NUMA emulation even on systems with
> only DRAM. You can create two-fake memory-tiers by booting a single-node
> system with "numa=fake=2 numa_emulation.adistance=576,704" kernel
> parameters.
>
> The reason for this issue is that memory allocations do not directly
> trigger the oom-killer, assuming that if the target node has an underlying
> memory tier, it can always be reclaimed by demotion.
Why don't we fall back to no demotion mode in this case? I mean we have
shrink_folio_list:
if (!list_empty(&demote_folios)) {
/* Folios which weren't demoted go back on @folio_list */
list_splice_init(&demote_folios, folio_list);
/*
* goto retry to reclaim the undemoted folios in folio_list if
* desired.
*
* Reclaiming directly from top tier nodes is not often desired
* due to it breaking the LRU ordering: in general memory
* should be reclaimed from lower tier nodes and demoted from
* top tier nodes.
*
* However, disabling reclaim from top tier nodes entirely
* would cause ooms in edge scenarios where lower tier memory
* is unreclaimable for whatever reason, eg memory being
* mlocked or too hot to reclaim. We can disable reclaim
* from top tier nodes in proactive reclaim though as that is
* not real memory pressure.
*/
if (!sc->proactive) {
do_demote_pass = false;
goto retry;
}
}
to handle this situation no?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-13 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-13 8:14 [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: fix oom-killer not being invoked when demotion is enabled Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: memory-tiers, numa_emu: enable to create memory tiers using fake numa nodes Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13 9:30 ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-13 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: numa_emu: add document for NUMA emulation Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13 9:32 ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-13 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13 13:40 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-01-14 12:51 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-14 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2026-01-14 17:49 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-15 0:40 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-22 0:32 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-22 16:38 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-26 1:57 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-27 21:21 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-29 0:51 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-29 2:48 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-22 18:34 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-01-26 2:01 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-27 22:00 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-01-29 0:40 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-02-02 13:11 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-02 13:15 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-04 2:07 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-02-04 9:25 ` Michal Hocko
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