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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 10:04:02AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote: > > I actually think that what Christoph wants is actually quite different > > from what Jeff wants, and maybe two flags are needed. But I don't yet > > have a clear understanding of what Christoph wants, so I cannot be sure. > > I've tried to indirectly ask whether you would be willing to compromise > here or whether you want to insist on your alternative name. Apparently > that didn't come through. Btw, I don't think the name is the primary problem, as we seem to disagree even about the problem space. The current patch series from Jeff helps with the stable handle problem, which is an important one, although maybe not the one you and Amir care about most. I care about it most, because the addition of unstable handles caused problems and I really want that fixed before it spreads further, and I think anything mentioning NFS in that is factually wrong. If we need additional flags to work around other issues (as in the list compiled by Neil) I'd still prefer them to be named about what issues they deal with, but folks get too tired of that I could probably with a "NFSD get the f^&&& out" name if we'd just keep shouting at each other otherwise. 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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html X-Headers-End: 1viUth-0001Bf-Ia Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support X-BeenThere: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Martin Brandenburg , jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, Jan Kara , Paulo Alcantara , Alex Markuze , Sandeep Dhavale , linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, Carlos Maiolino , Amir Goldstein , linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, Konstantin Komarov , Chris Mason , Andreas Dilger , Chunhai Guo , Ronnie Sahlberg , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Mike Marshall , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, Yue Hu , Miklos Szeredi , Richard Weinberger , Mark Fasheh , Hugh Dickins , Dai Ngo , Ryusuke Konishi , Christoph Hellwig , Viacheslav Dubeyko , NeilBrown , Gao Xiang , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Salah Triki , linux-mm@kvack.org, devel@lists.orangefs.org, Shyam Prasad N , Olga Kornievskaia , linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Dave Kleikamp , Tom Talpey , ocfs2-devel@lists.linux.dev, Bharath SM , David Sterba , Alexander Viro , Baolin Wang , Jeffle Xu , Jaegeuk Kim , ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Ilya Dryomov , OGAWA Hirofumi , Andreas Gruenbacher , gfs2@lists.linux.dev, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o , Luis de Bethencourt , Joseph Qi , linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, Jeff Layton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Steve French , Chuck Lever , Hongbo Li , Anna Schumaker , Jan Kara , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Phillip Lougher , Andrew Morton , ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, David Woodhouse , Trond Myklebust , Joel Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: linux-f2fs-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 10:04:02AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote: > > I actually think that what Christoph wants is actually quite different > > from what Jeff wants, and maybe two flags are needed. But I don't yet > > have a clear understanding of what Christoph wants, so I cannot be sure. > > I've tried to indirectly ask whether you would be willing to compromise > here or whether you want to insist on your alternative name. Apparently > that didn't come through. Btw, I don't think the name is the primary problem, as we seem to disagree even about the problem space. The current patch series from Jeff helps with the stable handle problem, which is an important one, although maybe not the one you and Amir care about most. I care about it most, because the addition of unstable handles caused problems and I really want that fixed before it spreads further, and I think anything mentioning NFS in that is factually wrong. If we need additional flags to work around other issues (as in the list compiled by Neil) I'd still prefer them to be named about what issues they deal with, but folks get too tired of that I could probably with a "NFSD get the f^&&& out" name if we'd just keep shouting at each other otherwise. _______________________________________________ Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list Linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19094C44502 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:52:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=asrABggytSHl8w1+j4bE3LWcNPnxkMivAYAJmsCH+wU=; b=WgtTosFacQXJhI b7uoQkq6HWGRAwWWO5XQdOdR7Q0AoSL67uYr8LJphp9u+RgDuZ2qg1/gUyXooCoAZx7fbGtPEnqiR dlHUKQmiC8x+S28U46xFL70uXJSwlXJtl4oMrtN1X+gobgnC1EiQDEP2fYLFlD7qSKWqrz/69OvHA WvjqLHmlyGNpcu32Ift1VAZ1+fnVrJ6Kf4G+Hmkrsi64kA0WuqY0d9LtMyGi8oiYSfPoTEOg+8rB4 0/mLY3av2icxyFgiG7MknJXiS9JG3A9lhAxS8nVnRYZcxsJIgn7EMhuVWfsFpwCe6pVw/NbxZ8prz ifstZYFp3tzlNW0DE9BA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1viUtH-00000005DjL-4AZB; Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:52:43 +0000 Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1viUtD-00000005Dic-3hpF; Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:52:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 01:52:39 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Christian Brauner Cc: NeilBrown , Christoph Hellwig , Jeff Layton , Amir Goldstein , Alexander Viro , Chuck Lever , Olga Kornievskaia , Dai Ngo , Tom Talpey , Hugh Dickins , Baolin Wang , Andrew Morton , Theodore Ts'o , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Gao Xiang , Chao Yu , Yue Hu , Jeffle Xu , Sandeep Dhavale , Hongbo Li , Chunhai Guo , Carlos Maiolino , Ilya Dryomov , Alex Markuze , Viacheslav Dubeyko , Chris Mason , David Sterba , Luis de Bethencourt , Salah Triki , Phillip Lougher , Steve French , Paulo Alcantara , Ronnie Sahlberg , Shyam Prasad N , Bharath SM , Miklos Szeredi , Mike Marshall , Martin Brandenburg , Mark Fasheh , Joel Becker , Joseph Qi , Konstantin Komarov , Ryusuke Konishi , Trond Myklebust , Anna Schumaker , Dave Kleikamp , David Woodhouse , Richard Weinberger , Jan Kara , Andreas Gruenbacher , OGAWA Hirofumi , Jaegeuk Kim , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, devel@lists.orangefs.org, ocfs2-devel@lists.linux.dev, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, gfs2@lists.linux.dev, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support Message-ID: References: <20260115-exportfs-nfsd-v1-0-8e80160e3c0c@kernel.org> <9c99197dde2eafa55a1b55dce2f0d4d02c77340a.camel@kernel.org> <176877859306.16766.15009835437490907207@noble.neil.brown.name> <176880736225.16766.4203157325432990313@noble.neil.brown.name> <20260119-kanufahren-meerjungfrau-775048806544@brauner> <176885553525.16766.291581709413217562@noble.neil.brown.name> <20260120-entmilitarisieren-wanken-afd04b910897@brauner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260120-entmilitarisieren-wanken-afd04b910897@brauner> X-BeenThere: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-mtd" Errors-To: linux-mtd-bounces+linux-mtd=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 10:04:02AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote: > > I actually think that what Christoph wants is actually quite different > > from what Jeff wants, and maybe two flags are needed. But I don't yet > > have a clear understanding of what Christoph wants, so I cannot be sure. > > I've tried to indirectly ask whether you would be willing to compromise > here or whether you want to insist on your alternative name. Apparently > that didn't come through. Btw, I don't think the name is the primary problem, as we seem to disagree even about the problem space. The current patch series from Jeff helps with the stable handle problem, which is an important one, although maybe not the one you and Amir care about most. I care about it most, because the addition of unstable handles caused problems and I really want that fixed before it spreads further, and I think anything mentioning NFS in that is factually wrong. If we need additional flags to work around other issues (as in the list compiled by Neil) I'd still prefer them to be named about what issues they deal with, but folks get too tired of that I could probably with a "NFSD get the f^&&& out" name if we'd just keep shouting at each other otherwise. ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/