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From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Orphan filesystems after mount namespace destruction and tmpfs "leak"
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 19:43:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYD7zpZQeeRpy9ho@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260202184356.GD3183987@ZenIV>

On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 06:43:56PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > I am not sure what a possible solution would be here. I can only think
> > of blocking exit(2) for the last process in the namespace until all
> > filesystems are cleanly unmounted, but that is not very informative
> > either.
> 
> That's insane - if nothing else, the process that holds the sucker
> opened may very well be waiting for the one you've blocked.

Good point. I obviously don't underhand lifecycle here.

> You are getting exactly what you asked for - same as you would on
> lazy umount, for that matter.
> 
> Filesystem may be active without being attached to any namespace;
> it's an intentional behaviour.  What's more, it _is_ visible to
> ustat(2), as well as lsof(1) and similar userland tools in case
> of opened file keeping it busy.

I can only see the opened file, not the rest of filesystem, right?

Do you see the USB stick scenario problematic? It is weird to me that
umount would fail with -EBUSY here, but kill full namespace is fine.

-- 
  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-02 17:50 Orphan filesystems after mount namespace destruction and tmpfs "leak" Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-02 18:43 ` Al Viro
2026-02-02 19:43   ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-02-02 20:03 ` Askar Safin
2026-02-03 14:58 ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-04 17:04   ` Theodore Tso

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