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From: Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.com>,
	 Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	 Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@ddn.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] fuse: add compound command to combine multiple requests
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 14:19:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaWNGdV6XoZZXvJW@fedora.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegvPD3nrOjuXtQzJpg_krH0SUhSwewAMNfZmGjju50jK2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 12:03:35PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 at 10:56, Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 10:45:36AM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 at 17:43, Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.com> wrote:
> > > > +
> > > > +       unsigned int max_count;
> > > > +       unsigned int count;
> > > > +};
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * This is a hint to the fuse server that all requests are complete and it can
> > > > + * use automatic decoding and sequential processing from libfuse.
> > > > + */
> > > > +#define FUSE_COMPOUND_SEPARABLE (1 << 0)
> > >
> > > We really need per sub-request flags, not per-compound flags.
> > >
> > > I.e:
> > >
> > > FUSE_SUB_IS_ENTRY - this sub request will return a new entry on
> > > success (nodeid, filehandle)
> > > FUSE_SUB_DEP_ENTRY - this sub request depends on the result of a previous lookup
> > >
> >
> > Couldn't we just save boolean flags in the fuse_args?
> > Something like 'bool is_sub_entry:1' and so on?
> 
> Sure, that's fine.
> 
> > If we have the automatic separation and call of requests in the kernel
> > when the fuse server returns ENOSYS, I don't see the point in adding this
> > to libfuse as well, since there will never be the case,  that kernel
> > doesn't support compounds but libfuse does.
> > It's either the fuse server handles the whole compound, or the kernel does.
> 
> No, I think the library is in a good position to handle compounds,
> because that can reduce the complexity in the server while keeping
> most of the performance benefits.
> 
> > My point is, we don't need to send that information anywhere.
> 
> We need to send that information in any case.  It needs to be part of
> the matching done by the server to "recognize" a certain compound,
> because the same sequence of operations could have different meaning
> if the dependencies are different.

OK, if I have to send flags, that are only present if the fuse request
is inside a compound then I would suggest that we preface the fuse request
with a small compound header, where we store that information.

I would not want to change the fuse request, especially not define the same
flags for every type of fuse requests.

Would that be acceptable?

> 
> Thanks,
> Miklos
> 

Thanks,
Horst

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 16:43 [PATCH v6 0/3] fuse: compound commands Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-26 16:43 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] fuse: add compound command to combine multiple requests Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-26 23:05   ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-27  9:45   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-27 10:48     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-27 11:29       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-27 11:37         ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-27 11:58           ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-03-02  9:56     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-02 11:03       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-03-02 13:19         ` Horst Birthelmer [this message]
2026-03-02 13:30           ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-03-06 14:27     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-26 16:43 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] fuse: create helper functions for filling in fuse args for open and getattr Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-26 16:43 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] fuse: add an implementation of open+getattr Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-26 19:12   ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-27  7:48     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-27 17:51       ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-27 18:07         ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-28  8:14           ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-02 18:56             ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-02 20:03               ` Bernd Schubert
2026-03-03  5:06                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-03  7:26                   ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-03 10:03                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-03-03 10:38                     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-03 21:19                       ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-04  9:11                         ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-04 21:42                           ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-03 23:13                     ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-04  9:37                       ` Miklos Szeredi

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