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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 question: Can a process have > 3GB memory?
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:41:44 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abh7po$dph$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020510145244.14035A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com> <E176GHv-0006ee-00@the-village.bc.nu>

In article <E176GHv-0006ee-00@the-village.bc.nu>,
Alan Cox  <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> kernel. It would be possible to allow program access to this RAM, although
>> both Kernel and gcc support would be needed. M$ had "huge" memory models
>> to go over 64k in the old 8086 days, doing loads of segment registers.
>
>Alas that is not quite the case. You still have a 4Gb virtual address
>space. If you want > 32bits, get a > 32bit processor. This one isnt as
>simple as add segmentation and 'large model'

Well, you _could_ use the P bit on the segments and "page" them in on
demand with mmap. That would get you a model very similar to the old
16-big large model: no single object can be bigger than 2GB, but you can
have a total object size of something like 40 bits.

No kernel support needed, actually. It's all there with the LDT stuff.

But yes, compiler support and a recompiled glibc. And it would break all
programs that assume a flat address space.

And it would really _suck_ performance-wise if your working set is big
enough to cause you to have to switch mmap's a lot.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-10 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-07 23:03 x86 question: Can a process have > 3GB memory? Clifford White
2002-05-07 23:08 ` Robert Love
2002-05-08  5:33   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-08  8:29   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-08 16:21     ` Robert Love
2002-05-07 23:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08 16:54   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-05-08  0:16 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-05-08  0:56   ` Rik van Riel
2002-05-08 15:12     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-05-08 15:17       ` Rik van Riel
2002-05-08 15:24       ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-09 21:24     ` tchiwam
2002-05-09 21:40       ` Robert Love
2002-05-09 23:56         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-05-10  6:58           ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-10 19:07         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-05-10 19:42           ` Alan Cox
2002-05-10 19:41             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-05-08  8:22 ` Luigi Genoni

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