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From: Bing Jiao <bingjiao@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
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	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm/memcontrol: disable demotion in memcg direct reclaim
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:57:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <absRz4U_IMk0ofxl@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9r8zP5HmeE1uOZE9WxN1GyC59mM_F2JGaKLEkxzzCvnxpW2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 04:44:34PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 4:07 PM Bing Jiao <bingjiao@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > NUMA demotion counts towards reclaim targets in shrink_folio_list(), but
> > it does not reduce the total memory usage of a memcg. In memcg direct
> > reclaim paths (e.g., charge-triggered or manual limit writes), where
> > demotion is allowed, this leads to "fake progress" where the reclaim
> > loop concludes it has satisfied the memory request without actually
> > reducing the cgroup's charge.
> >
> > This could result in inefficient reclaim loops, CPU waste, moving all
> > pages to far-tier nodes, and potentially premature OOM kills when the
> > cgroup is under memory pressure but demotion is still possible.
> >
> > Introduce the MEMCG_RECLAIM_NO_DEMOTION flag to disable demotion in
> > these memcg-specific reclaim paths. This ensures that reclaim
> > progress is only counted when memory is actually freed or swapped out.
>
> See the discussion @
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250909012141.1467-1-cuishw@inspur.com/
> and the commits/threads it is referring to.

Hi Yosry,

Thanks for pointing it out! I was unaware of the previous discussion
regarding demotion as aging progress.

I will drop patches 2 and 3 from this series and resubmit patch 1 as
a standalone fix by replying to this thread.

Thanks,
Bing

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-18 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 23:06 [PATCH 0/3] mm/memcontrol: control demotion in memcg reclaim Bing Jiao
2026-03-17 23:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/memcontrol: fix reclaim_options leak in try_charge_memcg() Bing Jiao
2026-03-17 23:38   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-17 23:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memcontrol: disable demotion in memcg direct reclaim Bing Jiao
2026-03-17 23:44   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-18 20:57     ` Bing Jiao [this message]
2026-03-18 21:56       ` [PATCH v2] mm/memcontrol: fix reclaim_options leak in try_charge_memcg() Bing Jiao
2026-03-18 22:06         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-18 22:19         ` [PATCH v3] " Bing Jiao
2026-03-18 22:54           ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 23:28           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-19  9:29           ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-20  3:39             ` Bing Jiao
2026-03-20  9:32               ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-21  3:34           ` [PATCH v4] " Bing Jiao
2026-03-20 13:17   ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memcontrol: disable demotion in memcg direct reclaim Donet Tom
2026-03-21  4:04     ` Bing Jiao
2026-03-17 23:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/vmscan: add demote= option to proactive reclaim Bing Jiao

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