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From: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Josh Hilke <jrhilke@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 20:12:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac18LHQLalPb4z0-@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac1s55_oLEUQx8Hs@google.com>

On 2026-04-01 12:07 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026, David Matlack wrote:
> > On 2026-04-01 11:17 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2026, Josh Hilke wrote:

> > Agree this would be nice to have. Is this a blocker for this series?
> 
> Yes.  KVM selftests need to assert there's a driver before trying to proceed.

That exists in the new test:

static int setup_msi(struct vfio_pci_device *device, bool use_device_msi)
{
	const int flags = MAP_SHARED | MAP_ANONYMOUS;
	const int prot = PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE;
	struct dma_region *region;

	if (use_device_msi) {
		/* A driver is required to generate an MSI. */
		TEST_REQUIRE(device->driver.ops);

But I think you are also asking to have a helper that prints out the
list of available drivers in this case. That should be trivial to add.

VFIO selftests could expose add a helper that handles checking for
device->driver.ops and, if null, printing an error message and list of
available drivers and exiting with KSFT_SKIP.

One wrinkle here is we are probably going to merge a driver soon that
does not support send_msi():

  https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20260331172241.50456-1-rubind@nvidia.com/

So we should also have an API for that. e.g. Add 2 helpsers:

  - vfio_pci_has_driver()
  - vfio_pci_has_driver_send_msi()

This test would use the latter.

> > > struct vfio_pci_device *kvm_vfio_device_init(const char *bdf)
> > > {
> > > 	struct vfio_pci_device *device;
> > > 	struct iommu *iommu;
> > > 
> > > 	iommu = iommu_init(default_iommu_mode);
> > > 
> > > 	device = vfio_pci_device_init(bdf, iommu);
> > > 	if (!device) {
> > > 		vfio_pci_device_print_drivers(stderr);
> > > 		TEST_FAIL("No driver found for BDF '%s'", bdf);
> > > 	}
> > > 	return device;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > Because as is, this requires way too much a priori knowledge and magic for
> > > upstream.  The user shouldn't have to dig through code just to understand what
> > > devices are supported.
> > >
> > > Ideally, VFIO selftests would also provide a script, utility, and/or helper to
> > > identify BDFs for devices it has drivers for.  In my experience, binding a device
> > > to VFIO is trivial.  Finding the device in the first place is more annoying.
> > 
> > Agree this would be nice to have. Is this a blocker for this series?
> 
> Yes.  As I mentioned to Josh off-list, I'm not willing to accept a "we pinky-swear
> we'll make this stuff user friendly".  It's not that I don't trust you and Josh
> (and others), it's that for me, this level of user-friendly behavior isn't nice
> to have, it's mandatory for these tests to be usable upstream.
> 
> Internally we can squeak by with barebones, unhelpful tests, because the run
> commands are often hardcoded somewhere and there is piles of documentation elsewhere.
> But for upstream, none of that holds true.
> 
> If it were weeks of effort, I would be more open to treating this as nice to have,
> but AFAICT writing the code should be less than a days worth of work.

Yeah that's fine, I don't think it adds too much extra work, and it's
something I'd like to have anyway. I just wanted to confirm if it should
be part (or merged ahead of this series) or can be separate. Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-31 19:40 [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] KVM: selftests: Build and link sefltests/vfio/lib into KVM selftests Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 18:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 23:49     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] KVM: selftests: Add helper functions for IRQ testing Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 18:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 23:54     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] KVM: selftests: Add vfio_pci_irq_test Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 19:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  0:13     ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02 17:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] KVM: selftests: Reproduce tests that rely on randomization Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for random host IRQ affinity Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  1:16     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] KVM: selftests: Allow blocking vCPUs via HLT Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for physical device MSI triggers Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  3:23     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] KVM: selftests: Add option to clear GSI routes Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] KVM: selftests: Make test IRQ count configurable Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for NMI delivery Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:29   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  5:27     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for vCPU pinning Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] KVM: selftests: Support testing with multiple vCPUs Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] KVM: selftests: Add xAPIC mode support Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] KVM: selftests: Make vfio_pci_irq_test timeout configurable Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 21:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 18:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 18:52   ` David Matlack
2026-04-01 19:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 20:12       ` David Matlack [this message]
2026-04-01 23:41         ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 23:58           ` David Matlack
2026-04-02  0:38             ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02  1:49               ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02 17:35                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 17:56                   ` David Matlack
2026-04-02 18:07                     ` Josh Hilke

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