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Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Vinod Koul , Neil Armstrong , Mark Brown , Liam Girdwood , Lee Jones , Pavel Machek , Peter Rosin , Heiner Kallweit , Moritz Fischer , Xu Yilun , Tom Rix , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Danilo Krummrich , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 07/10] net: phy: switch to using class_find_device_by_fwnode() Message-ID: References: <20260322-remove-device-find-by-of-node-v1-0-b72eb22a1215@gmail.com> <20260322-remove-device-find-by-of-node-v1-7-b72eb22a1215@gmail.com> <32679fc0-c388-4cd7-a030-5f5ed5abab78@lunn.ch> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: driver-core@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 09:15:11PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote: > > This is not "foreign territory" - ACPI in general doesn't want to > > describe e.g. the individual components of a network card, unlike > > DT. > > It has also been suggested that the MDIO bus should be added to the > ACPI specification as a first class bus, similar to I2C, SPI, > etc. This would make it different to the DT. So we don't want to > encourage developers to use the networking DT concepts in ACPI, it > will just cause problems if the ACPI spec every actually covers the > use cases of networking. BTW, why would not we want to push for the unified binding? 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Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Vinod Koul , Neil Armstrong , Mark Brown , Liam Girdwood , Lee Jones , Pavel Machek , Peter Rosin , Heiner Kallweit , Moritz Fischer , Xu Yilun , Tom Rix , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Danilo Krummrich , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 07/10] net: phy: switch to using class_find_device_by_fwnode() Message-ID: References: <20260322-remove-device-find-by-of-node-v1-0-b72eb22a1215@gmail.com> <20260322-remove-device-find-by-of-node-v1-7-b72eb22a1215@gmail.com> <32679fc0-c388-4cd7-a030-5f5ed5abab78@lunn.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20260323_145001_975005_4DF5F36F X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 14.65 ) X-BeenThere: linux-phy@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux Phy Mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-phy" Errors-To: linux-phy-bounces+linux-phy=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 09:15:11PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote: > > This is not "foreign territory" - ACPI in general doesn't want to > > describe e.g. the individual components of a network card, unlike > > DT. > > It has also been suggested that the MDIO bus should be added to the > ACPI specification as a first class bus, similar to I2C, SPI, > etc. This would make it different to the DT. So we don't want to > encourage developers to use the networking DT concepts in ACPI, it > will just cause problems if the ACPI spec every actually covers the > use cases of networking. BTW, why would not we want to push for the unified binding? They are the same pieces of hardware... -- Dmitry -- linux-phy mailing list linux-phy@lists.infradead.org https://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-phy